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Would you be excited if the US Mint made something like this?

U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 10, 2021 4:07PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Would a coin like this spark your interest if it was made by the US Mint?



It is a silver 10 Som Lightly Armed Warrior from Kyrgyzstan (minted by Kazakhstan)-a recent arrival as I continue to expand my horizons.
The mintage is 1,000.

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    WCCWCC Posts: 3,223 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No, not really. It would be just another commemorative in the on-going flood of NCLT which seemingly never ends.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like NCLT. The only thing that restrains me is the issue price for most of it. But the designs are quite beautiful from so many countries.

    Your coin has a lot going on. And that rider looks like he's flying out of the coin.

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    BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,930 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2021 4:34PM

    I'm generally opposed to the US Mint making anything but instruments of commerce and perhaps a few medals to serve official government functions. The private sector is capable of handling the rest of it just fine. The private sector would also be required to market it effectively and provide adequate customer service to run a successful business.

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    bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    🐺

    Ken
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    goldengolden Posts: 10,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bearcave said:
    🐺

    I have a wolf for you :)

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    bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's cool!!! 🙂

    Ken
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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bearcave said:
    That's cool!!! 🙂

    Thanks! That one is from Kazakhstan (their mint has made some excellent coins over the years).

    Here is a thread that shows both coins from the same series as the wolf:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/the-collection-continues.349335/

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    bearcavebearcave Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess some excellent coins, I will.look at the link and see.

    Ken
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are lots of single issues that float people’s boats.

    I don’t think the mint should have novelty issues.

    And thinking of that, perhaps a reason to limit the Morgan and peace issues.

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @golden said:
    No.

    Couldn’t have said it better myself

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    chesterbchesterb Posts: 995 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No I wouldn't be interested. In fact, I've totally soured on anything the mint produces especially after the last couple years.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    There are lots of single issues that float people’s boats.

    I don’t think the mint should have novelty issues.

    And thinking of that, perhaps a reason to limit the Morgan and peace issues.

    I'd trade all the modern US Mint offerings for those from Kazakhstan, which I believe has consistently solid products.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:
    Would a coin like this spark your interest if it was made by the US Mint?



    It is a silver 10 Som Lightly Armed Warrior from Kyrgyzstan (minted by Kazakhstan)-a recent arrival as I continue to expand my horizons.
    The mintage is 1,000.

    The design techniques are great but the subject matter is specifically from Kyrgyzstan.

    The same techniques could be used for the US using scenes from the Trans-Mississippi, like Indians hunting buffalo.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @U1chicago said:
    Would a coin like this spark your interest if it was made by the US Mint?



    It is a silver 10 Som Lightly Armed Warrior from Kyrgyzstan (minted by Kazakhstan)-a recent arrival as I continue to expand my horizons.
    The mintage is 1,000.

    The design techniques are great but the subject matter is specifically from Kyrgyzstan.

    The same techniques could be used for the US using scenes from the Trans-Mississippi, like Indians hunting buffalo.

    I like that idea. Something similar with an iconic scene from the old west would look just as cool (and the different finishes help bring out parts of the design).

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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No

    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner. :smile:
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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,967 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

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    ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think I'd be confused if the us mint made a kyrgyz commemorative coin 🤔

    🙃

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2021 8:07PM

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
    I think I'd be confused if the us mint made a kyrgyz commemorative coin 🤔

    🙃

    Bilateral cooperation; they can make a US themed coin :D

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    santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No. Those are interesting but I’m confident the US Mint would turn out a mess.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2021 8:39PM

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
    I think I'd be confused if the us mint made a kyrgyz commemorative coin 🤔

    Hasn't the US Mint struck coins for over 100 countries?

    Has the US Mint ever struck a Kyrgyz coin?

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Zoins said:

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
    I think I'd be confused if the us mint made a kyrgyz commemorative coin 🤔

    Hasn't the US Mint struck coins for over 100 countries?

    Has the US Mint ever struck a Kyrgyz coin?

    Kyrgyzstan only started using coins in 2008 and all have been made in Kazakhstan.

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    truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭

    Nah

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,456 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:

    @Zoins said:

    @ɹoʇɔǝlloɔ said:
    I think I'd be confused if the us mint made a kyrgyz commemorative coin 🤔

    Hasn't the US Mint struck coins for over 100 countries?

    Has the US Mint ever struck a Kyrgyz coin?

    Kyrgyzstan only started using coins in 2008 and all have been made in Kazakhstan.

    Here's the website:

    Kazakhstan Mint of the National Bank of the Republic of Kazakhstan

    http://en.kazmint.kz/

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    thefinnthefinn Posts: 2,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Only the RCM can make that work - and they have the skills.

    thefinn
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    ShaunBC5ShaunBC5 Posts: 1,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like that other countries make stuff like that and I’m glad that we don’t. I can’t explain or defend my sentiment, but it’s how I feel.

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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the coin, so yes. Although I'd be much more supportive of any Mint offerings if they were sold more like IPO's: a fixed mintage, all sold at a specified time, at a price determined by some auction process. I think it would make for a healthier hobby and a healthier market.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    I like the coin, so yes. Although I'd be much more supportive of any Mint offerings if they were sold more like IPO's: a fixed mintage, all sold at a specified time, at a price determined by some auction process. I think it would make for a healthier hobby and a healthier market.

    I wouldn't be interested in any new US coin issue where I had to bid against QVC, HSN, and all the other marketers with deep pockets.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 41,100 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I like the coin, so yes. Although I'd be much more supportive of any Mint offerings if they were sold more like IPO's: a fixed mintage, all sold at a specified time, at a price determined by some auction process. I think it would make for a healthier hobby and a healthier market.

    I wouldn't be interested in any new US coin issue where I had to bid against QVC, HSN, and all the other marketers with deep pockets.

    Household limits mitigate that problem.

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @PerryHall said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I like the coin, so yes. Although I'd be much more supportive of any Mint offerings if they were sold more like IPO's: a fixed mintage, all sold at a specified time, at a price determined by some auction process. I think it would make for a healthier hobby and a healthier market.

    I wouldn't be interested in any new US coin issue where I had to bid against QVC, HSN, and all the other marketers with deep pockets.

    Household limits mitigate that problem.

    There are ways around household limits.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    I like the coin, so yes. Although I'd be much more supportive of any Mint offerings if they were sold more like IPO's: a fixed mintage, all sold at a specified time, at a price determined by some auction process. I think it would make for a healthier hobby and a healthier market.

    The mint should set an order period (two week for example) and then produce enough to fill the orders received.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have long been an advocate of returning art to U.S. coins.... Stop with the dead Presidents.... Ridiculous imagery serving no purpose. We could have attractive circulating coins... The Buffalo nickel is a prime example. SL coins, Trade Dollars etc.. Sure, special issues (commemoratives) could always be made for notable events. However, no reason we have to endure such plain imagery on our coins. We have history, we have natural beauty... Let's return to coinage evokes national pride. Cheers, RickO

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would consider purchasing any coin that is pleasing to MY eyes and artistically well designed. Therefore, Yes, I would consider buying that coin if it was issued by the US Mint.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:

    @MrEureka said:
    I like the coin, so yes. Although I'd be much more supportive of any Mint offerings if they were sold more like IPO's: a fixed mintage, all sold at a specified time, at a price determined by some auction process. I think it would make for a healthier hobby and a healthier market.

    I wouldn't be interested in any new US coin issue where I had to bid against QVC, HSN, and all the other marketers with deep pockets.

    I hesitate to say anything that could lead someone to collect modern issues, but that's BS. First, because the marketers are already in on these deals from Day 1, through their dealer/suppliers. And second, it doesn't matter how deep a marketer's pockets are. What matters is how deep the marketer's customers' pockets are.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2021 8:22AM

    @ricko said:
    I have long been an advocate of returning art to U.S. coins.... Stop with the dead Presidents.... Ridiculous imagery serving no purpose. We could have attractive circulating coins... The Buffalo nickel is a prime example...

    Granted, it's time for a change, but honoring the men and their achievements is hardly "ridiculous imagery serving no purpose". Anyway, our "dead presidents" were all good looking coins when first issued. It's the subsequent design modifications that ruined them. And it's not just the dead presidents. For example, consider the evolution of Saint Gaudens' 1907 UHR and HR into the current AGE.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2021 8:51AM

    I like that coin but the U.S. Mint would never issue a coin like that one. The Citizens Advisory Approval Board (or whatever it's called) would never allow it. Too scary and threatening. Don't believe me? Do the research on their selection process for the Native American dollar series. One of the early designs, and a good one, was rejected because the Indian warrior on horseback was holding a spear. The consensus was that it was unknown what the warrior's intentions were regarding the spear. Could it be something violent? YIKES! Pathetic. They are the reason I stopped before I ever got started on that series. Girls planting corn or holding platters of food, and images of wampum belts just doesn't get it for me. But it is
    not threatening and definitely not scary!

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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @U1chicago said:

    I'd trade all the modern US Mint offerings for those from Kazakhstan, which I believe has consistently solid products.

    I wouldn't take it that far but from what I've seen you are correct. On second thought, except for the silver Presidential Medal series, I agree with you.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,310 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What part are you asking? Would I be excited if they had a similar design? No, because it has nothing to do with USA. Would I be excited if they made an American design and limited it to 1,000 coins? Probably.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jwitten said:
    What part are you asking? Would I be excited if they had a similar design? No, because it has nothing to do with USA. Would I be excited if they made an American design and limited it to 1,000 coins? Probably.

    It is open for your interpretation; you can see take it in the direction @Zoins did (similar idea/design with something US related) or as others did (basically the same coin).

    The mintage figure was just for information purposes. A silver coin with a 1,000 mintage would be a flipper's delight but almost certainly another fiasco.

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    U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hydrant said:

    @U1chicago said:

    I'd trade all the modern US Mint offerings for those from Kazakhstan, which I believe has consistently solid products.

    I wouldn't take it that far but from what I've seen you are correct. On second thought, except for the silver Presidential Medal series, I agree with you.

    I know it isn't for everyone, but I have taken this approach. I started out as strictly US but over the years my world collection has grown. I still like the "classics" but at the moment my modern collection is dominated by coins from the mints in Austria and Kazakhstan (which makes coins for several nations, including Kyrgyzstan).

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    TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 4,547 ✭✭✭✭✭

    NO but I would like them to put steam locomotives on the reverse of half dollar size coins.

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2021 9:22AM

    @Hydrant said:
    I like that coin but the U.S. Mint would never issue a coin like that one. The Citizens Advisory Approval Board (or whatever it's called) would never allow it. Too scary and threatening. Don't believe me? Do the research on their selection process for the Native American dollar series. One of the early designs, and a good one, was rejected because the Indian warrior on horseback was holding a spear. The consensus was that it was unknown what the warrior's intentions were regarding the spear. Could it be something violent? YIKES! Pathetic. They are the reason I stopped before I ever got started on that series. Girls planting corn or holding platters of food, and images of wampum belts just doesn't get it for me. But it is
    not threatening and definitely not scary!

    I suppose I'm not surprised to hear this but it makes me kind of upset. A great example of just how brittle those eggshells are that everyone has to walk on these days.

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    privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bring back the silver trime so we the small fish can afford something special. :D

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    HalfDimeDudeHalfDimeDude Posts: 1,206 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No! Havent purchased any thing from the US mint in over a decade! Poor designs,poor quality, falsely inflated items due to limited production, which hurts the hobby not help to promote it.
    Other than the 2001 buffalo commemorative coins, I wasn't impressed with the 3 gold remakes dime, quarter,& half.
    There are other world mints that imho puts the US mint to shame.

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,161 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of my favorite coin designs. The US Mint could learn from it.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    HydrantHydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Meltdown said:

    @Hydrant said:
    I like that coin but the U.S. Mint would never issue a coin like that one. The Citizens Advisory Approval Board (or whatever it's called) would never allow it. Too scary and threatening. Don't believe me? Do the research on their selection process for the Native American dollar series. One of the early designs, and a good one, was rejected because the Indian warrior on horseback was holding a spear. The consensus was that it was unknown what the warrior's intentions were regarding the spear. Could it be something violent? YIKES! Pathetic. They are the reason I stopped before I ever got started on that series. Girls planting corn or holding platters of food, and images of wampum belts just doesn't get it for me. But it is
    not threatening and definitely not scary!

    I suppose I'm not surprised to hear this but it makes me kind of upset. A great example of just how brittle those eggshells are that everyone has to walk on these days.

    EXACTLY.

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