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Can anyone explain the pricing rationale for the upcoming Morgan & Peace Dollar offerings?

PipestonePetePipestonePete Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

First, a few examples of silver offerings the Mint has produced for collectors this year:

Proof American Silver Eagle----$79 (No surcharge but a full troy ounce of silver...and struck in Proof)

Martin Van Buren Presidential Medal---$65 (No surcharge but a full troy ounce of silver...not struck in Proof)

Christa McAuliffe Proof Dollar---$79 (Includes a $10 surcharge to be paid to the FIRST robotics program and it is struck in Proof)

Law Enforcement Proof Dollar---$79 (Includes a $10 surcharge to be paid to the National Law Enforcements Memorial Fund....and is struck in Proof)

Law Enforcement Uncirculated Dollar---$74 (Includes a $10 surcharge to be paid to the National Law Enforcements Memorial Fund. The Mint is knocking $5 off of the cost because this one is not struck in Proof)

Martin Van Buren Uncirculated Presidential Medal---$65 (No surcharge, not a Proof, but a full troy ounce of silver)

The Morgan/Peace Uncirculated Dollars----$85 (No surcharge...not a full ounce of silver....not struck in Proof)

It seems the major criteria used to help explain the price bloat on many of the U.S. Mint silver issues are not in place for this issue and yet the price is higher than any of the other options listed above. Why? What was the rationale that went into establishing the price point of this issue?

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2021 1:43PM

    GREED! ...and an expected sell-out.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Probably priced to what they think the market will bear. I’m sure there are decent margins on all of these.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These are not bullion coins. The $25 silver content has very little to do with the price

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    CoinHoarderCoinHoarder Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Supply and demand. A popular issue. They could charge much more than they are, and it would still sell out.

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    DCWDCW Posts: 7,924 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has the mintage been announced?

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    fathomfathom Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They are looking for margin to cover other losing programs is my guess.

    Should not be that way in a perfect world with a government operation....fill the rest of the sentence out as you wish.

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    RarityRarity Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭✭

    @PipestonePete said:

    The Morgan/Peace Uncirculated Dollars----$85 (No surcharge...not a full ounce of silver....not struck in Proof)

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    Why not a full ounce of silver?
    I just hope the coin is not copper with silver plated :smile:

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    GREED! ...and an expected sell-out.

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    MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Inflation. Stimulation. Sublimation. Situation. Maturation.

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    dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The mint charges $75/ounce for silver. Look at all of their offerings. These are little more, but not that much.

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    donzmedonzme Posts: 172 ✭✭✭
    edited April 16, 2021 4:12PM

    @DCW said:
    Has the mintage been announced?

    Using the same logic as the privy marked 2021W AGE proof one ounce, I'm afraid the mintage might be 2021 of each type, as that would justify the higher price.

    Nevermind, the mintage will be 175,000 for each privy marked Morgan, and 200,000 for the Peace. I'm changing my answer to "no clue".

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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These will probably sell out in minutes. They could have even priced them higher. As others have said: Supply and Demand!

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    djmdjm Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As Anthony Scaramucci said " to fleece the rubes"

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    PipestonePetePipestonePete Posts: 1,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dbldie55 said:
    The mint charges $75/ounce for silver. Look at all of their offerings.

    No, they don't.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Simply boils down to projected demand. These will sell fast and flip for more. The other issues are not that popular and require a lower price point to sell. Cheers, RickO

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,175 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    These are not bullion coins. The $25 silver content has very little to do with the price

    Bingo....along with demand for a popular "coin."

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 17, 2021 11:24AM

    Maybe they expect a run on the silver bullion banks before they issue the coins in October. Always a possibility that come delivery in Oct. $85 was cheap.

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    BearlyHereBearlyHere Posts: 303 ✭✭✭✭

    @donzme said:

    @DCW said:
    Has the mintage been announced?

    Nevermind, the mintage will be 175,000 for each privy marked Morgan, and 200,000 for the Peace. I'm changing my answer to "no clue".

    25 per household

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