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Should TrueView include a picture of the slab, not just the coin?

jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

Sometimes I'd like to see the label on some of the slabbed coins, not just the coin.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

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    winestevenwinesteven Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My apologies in advance for being a bit critical of our wonderful and generous host, but at times the slab photos taken by the auction houses show truer color of the coin in hand than what I call the “Not So” True View. But you can’t beat the True View for showing surface detail when photographing a coin just before it gets slabbed. They do a phenomenal job!

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    OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Couldn't care less about the slab...show me the coin...you know, the thing I actually collect.

    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,544 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Usually those true views are pretty excellent!

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it just the way it is.

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    MrweaseluvMrweaseluv Posts: 227 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think the slab needs to be pictured but it would be nice if they added the full "label" over/under the coin pic

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    davewesendavewesen Posts: 7,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    some coins change slabs frequently, but look the same

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2021 3:28PM

    My BTW came with only this slab shot TruView.....I have no idea why.

    Still the slab looks best with a gold bean. 🤠

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,578 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SeattleSlammer said:
    My BTW came with only this slab shot TruView.....I have no idea why.

    Those photos are Gold Shield Photos from the overseas offices like Paris and Hong Kong.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ideally it should have both as it would provide a nice record before slabbing and after. But if I had to choose one I would choose how it is today.

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    TrueViews are fine, but I like for online dealers to show the slab shot too.

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    stockdude_stockdude_ Posts: 555 ✭✭✭✭

    @OKbustchaser said:
    Couldn't care less about the slab...show me the coin...you know, the thing I actually collect.

    I hear you but we look at the coins in the slabs so i like to see the slab as well.

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2021 4:25PM

    @Zoins said:

    @SeattleSlammer said:
    My BTW came with only this slab shot TruView.....I have no idea why.

    Those photos are Gold Shield Photos from the overseas offices like Paris and Hong Kong.

    Soooooo...... overseas they only do slab shot TruViews ?

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    $5

    beauty photo while not in holder.
    sent to holdering
    sent to QC
    back for slab shot

    that last step is another $5 worth of work

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SeattleSlammer said:

    @Zoins said:

    @SeattleSlammer said:
    My BTW came with only this slab shot TruView.....I have no idea why.

    Those photos are Gold Shield Photos from the overseas offices like Paris and Hong Kong.

    Soooooo...... overseas they only do slab shot TruViews ?

    Correct, and the slab pics are relatively small as well. I believe they are using scanners and not photos.

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    PedzolaPedzola Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2021 5:50PM

    Two important functions of a trueview for me - 1) Authentication. Know the coin is not fake or tampered with if it matches the trueview. 2) Obviously it's a huge benefit as a buyer to have trueviews to compare to seller pics, which are frequently awful.

    Slab shots might be a benefit for authenticating modern high grade coins where the coin may not have many distinguishing marks. But for most others the coin is what you need to see.

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,900 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2021 4:48PM

    A mug shot of the slab immediately after it is holdered would suffice here, as it would show exactly what the coin looked like when it was slabbed, thus deterring tampering, such as gassing a coin in the holder. Something like Heritage's slab pictures would be great, but nothing that would slow down the process further. I brought this up a couple years ago when Brett did his "Ask Me Anything" thread, and he said it was in the plans, but I think getting turnaround times back down to where they once were is probably a higher priority now.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,578 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SeattleSlammer said:

    @Zoins said:

    @SeattleSlammer said:
    My BTW came with only this slab shot TruView.....I have no idea why.

    Those photos are Gold Shield Photos from the overseas offices like Paris and Hong Kong.

    Soooooo...... overseas they only do slab shot TruViews ?

    They only do slab shots overseas but they are not considered TrueViews.

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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Pedzola said:
    Two important functions of a trueview for me - 1) Authentication. Know the coin is not fake or tampered with if it matches the trueview. 2) Obviously it's a huge benefit as a buyer to have trueviews to compare to seller pics, which are frequently awful.

    Slab shots might be a benefit for authenticating modern high grade (69/70) coins where a closeup may not be definititive in helping you verify it. But for most others the coin is what you need to see.

    this has been a subject of past threads and probably a basis for this one. when looking at coins for sale online, I prefer to have both kinds of shots.

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    jessewvujessewvu Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was looking through some registry sets and wondering what the description is on the slab. Some of the buffalo gold coins have the Black Diamond label, you will only ever know that's on the slab if you see the slab Perhaps in the digital age, they could link up the files used to create the labels with the coins... Should be an easy data mining/database populating kind of thing.

    Now, if there were security issues with the folks across the china sea using those for ill gotten gains, well, I suppose I can understand the dilemma.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am interested in the coin detail, not the slab information, when viewing TruViews. If I am purchasing the coin, there is plenty of time to look at the slab - and, if an online purchase, of course I would want the slab picture. But first, the coin, in detail. Cheers, RickO

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,578 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2021 6:47AM

    I think it's better if TrueViews and SlabViews are both provided. The SlabViews provide great info on the relative size of the coin, the insert, and whether it is CAC or not.

    I've been posting TrueViews with SlabViews from Heritage and Stack's. I have a big preference for Heritage and Stack's because they provide photos of both sides of the slab. Legend only does the obverse slab. GC does both slab views but they don't let PCGS Cert Verification link to their site so it's a bit harder to come across.

    Here are some examples. Stack's does have an issue in that they cover part of the slab with a Stack's Bowers logo that hides the reverse insert, which they seem to do for all slabs except the Q. David Bowers Reference Collection inserts that show his face on the reverse.

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,281 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jessewvu said:
    Sometimes I'd like to see the label on some of the slabbed coins, not just the coin.

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    Or Just the front and back Holograms. It would help cut down on some fakes.



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    skier07skier07 Posts: 4,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would prefer both a slab and “glamour” shot. The more information I have the better off I am.

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    WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 10,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm only interested in the coin. The TVs list the cert. #, which is enough for me.

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