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Feuchtwanger's Comp One Cent...which one to keep? - GTG (Grades posted)

oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 25, 2021 4:36AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I was in the mood to add a Feuchtwanger's Composition One Cent to my collection and of course I found two that I liked within a couple days of each purchase. I am searching for a little guidance on which one the forumites favors over the other.

I am by no means an accurate grader, but these Feuchtwanger Cents typically come weakly struck. I thought it was pretty neat that these have reeded edges. What do you think these grade at in their respective holders?


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  • BillyKingsleyBillyKingsley Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭✭

    I like the obverse on the front example more, but the reverse more on the second. Tough call.

    I'd go with the first one because the obverse side is just too distracting on the second.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like them both, so would probably spend some time to see what dies I had and rarity

    https://novanumismatics.com/feuchtwangers-composition-cent-attribution-die-marriages-2/

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the 2nd one better too

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  • coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Second one looks best to me

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  • giorgio11giorgio11 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Door #2

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  • MrweaseluvMrweaseluv Posts: 226 ✭✭✭✭✭

    And I have to agree 2nd one has much greater eye appeal

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Numero Dos! Adios. Peace Roy

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  • StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd keep the 2nd one personally.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,796 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No contest ... number 2 wins.

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  • truebloodtrueblood Posts: 609 ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2021 4:17PM

    Is that pvc on #2 reverse? Just asking, not telling?

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would be happy to own either, but I like #1 a bit better for the luster and color.

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  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like number two

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2021 6:14AM

    Removed, OP swapped pics!

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What's wrong with getting them both? I see them as 58 and 55. I like the look of #1 better and it is in PCGS plastic so for me this is a no question #1. Or if they are priced right I might get both. I too would look at the die parings before hitting the buy button but I also have not seen much with people talking about collecting these as die pairs in recent years. It seems that Ambro was into these years ago.

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2021 9:01PM

    The PCGS holdered coin appears to be 6I (R1) NGC holdered coin is identified as 5H (R2). I see that NGC attributes them, whereas PCGS does not. Being a Type Collector, I only need one.

    UPDATE: I just noticed that I put the WRONG PCGS coin in the OP, and corrected it. I was not able to work out a deal for the PCGS holdered coin in the OP which was MS62 CAC.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62
    58
    I prefer the first coin.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I prefer the color of the first coin, but the green would scare me away. I like both their strikes.
    I see why you bought them both.
    Jim


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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I prefer number one.... but either one would be nice in a collection. Cheers, RickO

  • MrweaseluvMrweaseluv Posts: 226 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just want you to know you hooked me with this post :D Had to buy one of these myself, though nowhere near as nice as those 2 :D

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here are the grades;

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    I prefer the color of the first coin, but the green would scare me away. I like both their strikes.
    I see why you bought them both.
    Jim

    I am not picking up on the green that you mentioned, being colorblind does not help. Would you point out your area of concern?

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:

    @jesbroken said:
    I prefer the color of the first coin, but the green would scare me away. I like both their strikes.
    I see why you bought them both.
    Jim

    I am not picking up on the green that you mentioned, being colorblind does not help. Would you point out your area of concern?

    Here are some red arrows pointing to the green in the O and N and elswhere on the coin. As I said both coins are beauties but the green would make me concerned it would worsen. I actually do prefer the color of the 1st coin.
    Jim



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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,708 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I received the NGC MS62 version yesterday, and it is darker than the sellers images portray. I will think about it over the weekend, but initial feeling is that it will be returned. The PCGS AU55 version may be listed for sale, since it was an auction item. The original, wrongly posted image of the PCGS MS62 CAC that I missed out on was sold to another dealer, along with a larger asking price. This was probably the closest I am going to get to an actual pattern coin for my collection. Thanks to all for their comments! Have a great weekend!

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The first one has more attractive color, but the second one has a little more detail. Neither one is Mint State. So if they are changing a big premium for the second one because it’s graded “MS-62”, you might consider passing.

    The tiny green areas on the first might be a concern. These pieces are mostly made of copper, but my guess it, it’s arrested given proper storage.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    The first one has more attractive color, but the second one has a little more detail. Neither one is Mint State. So if they are changing a big premium for the second one because it’s graded “MS-62”, you might consider passing.

    The tiny green areas on the first might be a concern. These pieces are mostly made of copper, but my guess it, it’s arrested given proper storage.

    I certainly agree with you that neither one is Mint State.

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  • 1northcoin1northcoin Posts: 5,050 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ichi, Ni, San, Shi ..... Ni it is.

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