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daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

I have a proof coin in an NGC holder that I would prefer to have in PCGS plastic. I'm not concerned with the numerical grade, but I don't want to lose the Cameo distinction. Is it possible to request a cross at any grade but only if it remains a cameo?

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think I've ever done that specific thing, but writing "PR01CAM" in the minimum grade would probably accomplish that.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    I don't think I've ever done that specific thing, but writing "PR01CAM" in the minimum grade would probably accomplish that.

    Or just confuse them...

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @daltex said:
    I have a proof coin in an NGC holder that I would prefer to have in PCGS plastic. I'm not concerned with the numerical grade, but I don't want to lose the Cameo distinction. Is it possible to request a cross at any grade but only if it remains a cameo?

    Here's a fun question: if it won't cross as a cameo, is it actually a cameo?

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @daltex said:
    I have a proof coin in an NGC holder that I would prefer to have in PCGS plastic. I'm not concerned with the numerical grade, but I don't want to lose the Cameo distinction. Is it possible to request a cross at any grade but only if it remains a cameo?

    Here's a fun question: if it won't cross as a cameo, is it actually a cameo?

    It likely depends on the coin. πŸ˜‰

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @daltex said:
    I have a proof coin in an NGC holder that I would prefer to have in PCGS plastic. I'm not concerned with the numerical grade, but I don't want to lose the Cameo distinction. Is it possible to request a cross at any grade but only if it remains a cameo?

    Here's a fun question: if it won't cross as a cameo, is it actually a cameo?

    It likely depends on the coin. πŸ˜‰

    Or even more likely, who's looking at it. ;)

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:
    I don't think I've ever done that specific thing, but writing "PR01CAM" in the minimum grade would probably accomplish that.

    Or just confuse them...

    In theory, PCGS will contact the submitter if/when they are confused. It might be safer to (also) write it in longhand on the submission form: "Cross at any CAM grade; do not cross without CAM".

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:
    I don't think I've ever done that specific thing, but writing "PR01CAM" in the minimum grade would probably accomplish that.

    Or just confuse them...

    In theory, PCGS will contact the submitter if/when they are confused. It might be safer to (also) write it in longhand on the submission form: "Cross at any CAM grade; do not cross without CAM".

    Thank you. I'll try that.

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Update: coin did not cross. Very glad not to lose the designation.

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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the update. You were smart to keep the designation.

    β€œIn matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cameonut said:
    Thanks for the update. You were smart to keep the designation.

    It was actually a UCAM, so yes.

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    WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,267 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Show us a picture of both sides of the coin and we will give you an honest reply to it being a cameo or not.
    Wayne :)

    Kennedys are my quest...

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    daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I didn't take any, but here is the cert at NGC:

    https://ngccoin.com/certlookup/4913331-003/68/

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    GoBustGoBust Posts: 607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks ultra to me, although I'm not well versed in modern coins

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse looks borderline for a UCAM. Obverse is very strong. Attractive coin overall.

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    CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You did the right thing. No way would that dcam at PCGS.

    β€œIn matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

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