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daltexdaltex Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

I have a proof coin in an NGC holder that I would prefer to have in PCGS plastic. I'm not concerned with the numerical grade, but I don't want to lose the Cameo distinction. Is it possible to request a cross at any grade but only if it remains a cameo?

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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think I've ever done that specific thing, but writing "PR01CAM" in the minimum grade would probably accomplish that.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:
    I don't think I've ever done that specific thing, but writing "PR01CAM" in the minimum grade would probably accomplish that.

    Or just confuse them...

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 30,367 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @daltex said:
    I have a proof coin in an NGC holder that I would prefer to have in PCGS plastic. I'm not concerned with the numerical grade, but I don't want to lose the Cameo distinction. Is it possible to request a cross at any grade but only if it remains a cameo?

    Here's a fun question: if it won't cross as a cameo, is it actually a cameo?

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @daltex said:
    I have a proof coin in an NGC holder that I would prefer to have in PCGS plastic. I'm not concerned with the numerical grade, but I don't want to lose the Cameo distinction. Is it possible to request a cross at any grade but only if it remains a cameo?

    Here's a fun question: if it won't cross as a cameo, is it actually a cameo?

    It likely depends on the coin. 😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @daltex said:
    I have a proof coin in an NGC holder that I would prefer to have in PCGS plastic. I'm not concerned with the numerical grade, but I don't want to lose the Cameo distinction. Is it possible to request a cross at any grade but only if it remains a cameo?

    Here's a fun question: if it won't cross as a cameo, is it actually a cameo?

    It likely depends on the coin. 😉

    Or even more likely, who's looking at it. ;)

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:
    I don't think I've ever done that specific thing, but writing "PR01CAM" in the minimum grade would probably accomplish that.

    Or just confuse them...

    In theory, PCGS will contact the submitter if/when they are confused. It might be safer to (also) write it in longhand on the submission form: "Cross at any CAM grade; do not cross without CAM".

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @CoinJunkie said:
    I don't think I've ever done that specific thing, but writing "PR01CAM" in the minimum grade would probably accomplish that.

    Or just confuse them...

    In theory, PCGS will contact the submitter if/when they are confused. It might be safer to (also) write it in longhand on the submission form: "Cross at any CAM grade; do not cross without CAM".

    Thank you. I'll try that.

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Update: coin did not cross. Very glad not to lose the designation.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the update. You were smart to keep the designation.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cameonut said:
    Thanks for the update. You were smart to keep the designation.

    It was actually a UCAM, so yes.

  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Show us a picture of both sides of the coin and we will give you an honest reply to it being a cameo or not.
    Wayne :)

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,459 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I didn't take any, but here is the cert at NGC:

    https://ngccoin.com/certlookup/4913331-003/68/

  • GoBustGoBust Posts: 570 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks ultra to me, although I'm not well versed in modern coins

  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse looks borderline for a UCAM. Obverse is very strong. Attractive coin overall.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,235 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You did the right thing. No way would that dcam at PCGS.

    “In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson

    My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!

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