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The 1972d Kennedy "No FG"? A Sight For Soar Eyes!

joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 26, 2021 12:12PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I know it's beat up and rough but would this be considered? Thanks guy's





"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It sure looks like it to me.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think so.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks guy's! Found it today on my way to work. Stopped at a Chase. It was in a Customer Wrapped Roll. ;)

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Who knows what's in the wild.

    One thing is for sure ... if you don't look ... your not going to find anything.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm going with No.

    I see the remains of the FG. Probably partially grease filled die

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not see it in those pictures.... could be some traces with the right angle and no glare... but for now - good find. Cheers, RickO

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭


  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see it, I see all kinds of figures close but not in the exact place. Maybe Pareidolia?
    I believe it is a no FG, Joey. Then that's just my opinion.
    Jim


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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see some die scratches from heavy polishing which would be expected if they ground off the FG.

  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭

    Post a clear image of the Motto on the obverse. There are specific markers for the No FG Die Marriage.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,553 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Found this explanation.

    Pete

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Motto Pics and Actual Area










    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,648 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dang Joey, this photo makes me see it, I think?
    Jim


    When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln

    Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Die Scratches Markers?




    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken said:
    Dang Joey, this photo makes me see it, I think?
    Jim

    As do I. You're in the best position to tell us, Joey-is there ANY trace of the initials?

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There appears to be something there or is it ,like someone else said, polishing? I see some holdered Varieties (Ngc/PCGS) ,with some slight tracings. They made the cut. :*

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2021 2:18PM

    Same here Joey ... check it out with your loupe.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,496 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your latest photos show a ghost image, no matter how faint, of FG. :/

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think I need more pictures ;)

  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's faint but it's there.
    Sorry.

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    doctored in my opinion

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,171 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2021 6:49PM

    Dang Joey.... can you get us a closer look please?
    ;)

  • PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    About 3 years ago I found the sister to this coin roll hunting. Went through about $10,000 in half dollars. Found a couple '74-D DDO's, 4-5 '82 no FG, a lot of 40%'s and a respectable amount of 90%'s. The '71-D DDO and many proof's. The coin I found looked just like yours, worn, chewed up and with enough wear to tease the imagination. Took a lot of straining to see any FG. I think the lower stars were sharper than should have, and coin so terribly worn that I felt not enough there.... Who knows? Could be the same coin! lol. There were a lot of half dollars that were marked with black, and red marker I remember from other roll hunters.

    I was really hoping to score a '73-D DDO. That would be an awesome find, and have always wanted that variety.

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have found a couple dozen 73-D DDO but then I've hunted 6 boxes every week for the last ten years. Several rolls of 74-D DDO, eleven 77-D DDO, 72 and 72-D DDO's and many 72-D and 82-P MDI's. Literally hundreds of 71-D DDO and Proofs and more silver than you can shake a stick at. It's been fun!

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FG is there but faint.
    No parade pisser am I, I promise.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2021 1:29PM

    What do you guys think they said? Lol. :*
    On my other coin, the 2020s Airmen error quarter. It came back a MS 67 STRIKE THRU.

    2021s Tuskegee Airmen ms 67

    Strike through error

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No guesses on what PCGS stated about my coin? :*

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @joeykoins said:
    No guesses on what PCGS stated about my coin? :*

    Please re-read all of the above. lol
    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 37,020 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WAYNEAS said:

    @joeykoins said:
    No guesses on what PCGS stated about my coin? :*

    Please re-read all of the above. lol
    Wayne

    This!

    We need to re-guess?

    They said "no"

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  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it to me from a quick glance. I found an exceptional UNC example...but it had a scratch on the eagle. Erg. Graded UNC details, which wasn’t a surprise, but a bit harsh.


  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Wahoo554 said:
    Looks like it to me from a quick glance. I found an exceptional UNC example...but it had a scratch on the eagle. Erg. Graded UNC details, which wasn’t a surprise, but a bit harsh.


    Yours looks prettier than mine. Too bad about the end results. Are you still happy liken me? :)

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @joeykoins said:

    @Wahoo554 said:
    Looks like it to me from a quick glance. I found an exceptional UNC example...but it had a scratch on the eagle. Erg. Graded UNC details, which wasn’t a surprise, but a bit harsh.


    Yours looks prettier than mine. Too bad about the end results. Are you still happy liken me? :)

    So I looked closer at the above, and at least in your later pictures I think I may see a trace of the FG. I’m guessing that PCGS said it was not the variety, but would need to see a closer look. If they designated mine details due to scratches, I assume they would do the same for yours. I was pretty disappointed in the details grade I got. I sent it to Great Collections for grading and auction. Absent that little scratch it is perhaps a $1000 plus coin. With the scratch it sold for about $120... Was worth the shot at grading and it could straight grade perhaps if tried enough times. In hindsight, I would have been better off just auctioning it raw on eBay.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    67 is pretty good plus it is an error coin.

    hard to know a value on that one.

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  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 24, 2021 8:31AM

    What do you think on this one


    I just saw a 72 D MS66 pop1 listed for 15K, can't find where I saw it but PCGS values it at 4.5K.
    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 24, 2021 8:34AM

    @WAYNEAS said:
    What do you think on this one


    I just saw a 72 D MS66 pop1 listed for 15K, can't find where I saw it but PCGS values it at 4.5K.
    Wayne

    That is what you call the real deal! ;)
    Wait a minute, that looks like the same coin?

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @joeykoins said:

    @WAYNEAS said:
    What do you think on this one

    That is what you call the real deal! ;)
    Wait a minute, that looks like the same coin?


    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok, so what is the value of the OP's coin slabbed with the "NO FG" designation in the grade that it is?

    BTW, what did it grade?

    GrandAm :)
  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 28, 2021 1:32PM

    Value, good question. As to what it graded. I already specified in my recent
    thread. XF- Cleaned Detailed. Hopefully, it still is worth near $100? XF by PCGS price Guide, $250. Uncleaned w/ no Details designation.

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe a value of $100. is too optimistic. The variety is scarce, somewhat- yet obtainable rather easily. Generally, a collector seeking out this variety for his set won't settle on a detailed coin as it will make then stand out like a sore thumb compared to his other coins within the set. Sadly, I'd place worth about $25.00.

    peacockcoins

  • KensCoins2287KensCoins2287 Posts: 160 ✭✭✭✭

    A few years back I found one of this variety, got it graded and attributed by PCGS (XF40) sold it on eBay for $170ish. If that helps with an idea on valuation.

  • WAYNEASWAYNEAS Posts: 7,014 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is an Au 55 coin listed on GC for a starting bid of $165.00 with no bidders yet.
    There is also a Genuine Unc Details starting bid at $95.00 with also no bidders at this time.
    Wayne

    Kennedys are my quest...

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks. No bidders yet. ;)

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @KensCoins2287 said:
    A few years back I found one of this variety, got it graded and attributed by PCGS (XF40) sold it on eBay for $170ish. If that helps with an idea on valuation.

    Thank you.

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 27, 2021 5:47PM

    My Submissions

    Couldn't of came at a better time. :/ Esp. of hearing about the 2019p Memorial DDO Variety. Anyway,

    My 1972d NO FG and My 2021s Airmen MS 67 Strike through Error coin

    Yea, the old black plastic case too.






    I Like how PCGS presented my Error coin.
    Notice they placed the reverse on the front. So you can actually see where the Strike Through is.


    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    Sadly, I'd place worth about $25.00.

    Thanks for the help but I have to strongly disagree with you. Maybe raw? Or in another holder but PCGS might push the value a tad higher than your $25 figure? I could be wrong? This variety is hard to catch in any grade. Much more difficult than the other two "No FG" Kennedys.
    Thanks again. :*

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @joeykoins said:

    @braddick said:

    Sadly, I'd place worth about $25.00.

    Thanks for the help but I have to strongly disagree with you. Maybe raw? Or in another holder but PCGS might push the value a tad higher than your $25 figure? I could be wrong? This variety is hard to catch in any grade. Much more difficult than the other two "No FG" Kennedys.
    Thanks again. :*

    Yeah, you're probably right.

    peacockcoins

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,629 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    Yeah, you're probably right.

    For my sake, I hope I am? Lol. But you know what? I probably will never sell it anyway? Just wanted to say and show, that I do own one, the hard to find variety. Thanks my friend. ;)

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.

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