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US Mint issued Mayflower silver RP medal - Royal Mint edge inscription

KnellKnell Posts: 458 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 20, 2021 9:17PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Finally got a chance to take a photo of USMint issued Mayflower silver medal from a Royal Mint set with edge inscription.

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    does this edge inscription appear on the US set's proof medal?

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    does this edge inscription appear on the US set's proof medal?

    no

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since the Royal Mint applied this to the US coin, isn't this essentially a modern example of a "chop mark"? It's an assayer's mark, is it not?

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    US Mint's pics of the medal indicate there is no reference on the coin to "silver" or its purity. Maybe Royal Mint is under a requirement that PM coins it releases indicate their metal and purity?

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    US Mint's pics of the medal indicate there is no reference on the coin to "silver" or its purity. Maybe Royal Mint is under a requirement that PM coins it releases indicate their metal and purity?

    I don't know whether it was a requirement or a choice, but they did it. LOL

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Since the Royal Mint applied this to the US coin, isn't this essentially a modern example of a "chop mark"? It's an assayer's mark, is it not?

    An assayer actually certifies each item for metal and purity. He does not take the producers word for it. LOL

    Governments can print currency. Only the people can print faith in it — and they’re running low on ink.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2021 5:31PM

    @derryb said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Since the Royal Mint applied this to the US coin, isn't this essentially a modern example of a "chop mark"? It's an assayer's mark, is it not?

    An assayer actually certifies each item for metal and purity. He does not take the producers word for it. LOL

    I'm not sure what they did with these. These days, they could have hit them with a gun. But they had to add the assay mark to each coin separately.

    The assay office says the hallmark indicates "independent evaluation": https://www.assayofficelondon.co.uk/hallmarking/what-is-a-hallmark

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    MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2021 5:35PM

    "The United States Mint's silver medal [...] carries a London hallmark of quality."
    Source: https://www.royalmint.com/our-coins/events/mayflower/400th-anniversary-of-the-mayflower-voyage-silver-proof-coin-and-medal-set/

    From left to right, it appears to be:
    ~ the sponsor's mark;
    ~ the fineness mark;
    ~ the assay office mark.
    Reference: https://www.assayofficelondon.co.uk/hallmarking/what-is-a-hallmark

    Edited to add: @jmlanzaf beat me to it. :)

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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 18,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Almost like CAC stamping the coin's edge. ;)

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:
    Almost like CAC stamping the coin's edge. ;)

    Maybe some day...

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a neat indicator of provenance.

    I am reminded that all precious metals sold in the UK need a British hallmark. (I am not sure how bullion coins work. Perhaps they are exempt if the issuer and fineness are on the coin.)

    It is (or used to be) similar for firearms - they need a British proofmark.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,368 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    That's a neat indicator of provenance.

    I am reminded that all precious metals sold in the UK need a British hallmark. (I am not sure how bullion coins work. Perhaps they are exempt if the issuer and fineness are on the coin.)

    It is (or used to be) similar for firearms - they need a British proofmark.

    Given the nature of the issue, I wonder if this is a first for a US Mint issue.

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    ɹoʇɔǝlloɔɹoʇɔǝlloɔ Posts: 1,436 ✭✭✭✭✭

    thanks for the photo - I'm still waiting on my set to get here from royal mint - shipped December amd all my UK mint shipments [now 4 separate shipments] are languishing [hopefully not stolen] in chcago mail center - they haven't moved in weeks ...

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,721 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That will be a unique item... Not at all sure that it will garner collector interest though. Cheers, RickO

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    OPAOPA Posts: 17,175 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On US sets, the COA's are numbered. Are they also numbered on the Royal Mint's COA's?

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 43,368 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 21, 2021 7:07AM

    yes, I believe so. Or maybe that was the gold coins.

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    KnellKnell Posts: 458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes there is a number on UK sets coa

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