scam alert on eBay

DennisH · January 1, 2021 6:06PM

A zero feedback seller has this listed on eBay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1896-O-MORGAN-S-1-PCGS-MS-64-Rare/174579644807?hash=item28a5c1f987:g:vkEAAOSwG0Ff72zR

The auction title is "1896-O MORGAN S$1 PCGS MS 64 Rare" and one of his item specifics says:
Certification Number: 39031295

His obverse listing photo is cropped to not show the serial number:

Here is the TruView of the real coin with that serial number:

Panda4456 · January 1, 2021 6:11PM

I reported it

MFeld · January 1, 2021 6:17PM

The coin pictured in the listing was also “sold” by the seller last month. He had a non-matching cert number listed then, as well, but the listing showed the entire grading label.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1896-O-MORGAN-S-1-PCGS-MS-64-Rare-/174541150510?hash=item28a376992e:g:S9cAAOSwfR5fxiiZ&nma=true&si=4oEEikGEqXGtNav0N9WzsLCxYgo%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

vplite99 · January 1, 2021 7:03PM

Thanks, DennisH. I have to wonder why the seller bothered to furnish a real cert number, since that verified the attempted fraud.

davewesen · January 2, 2021 7:05AM

part of the problem is caused by eBay - so you could say they are the scammer

Here is the coin partially described -> https://ebay.com/itm/1896-O-MORGAN-S-1-PCGS-MS-64/203026390182?hash=item2f4550dca6:g:IMIAAOSwdihf8CEz

below the pictures is a button that says $ have one to sell SELL NOW

if you hit the SELL NOW button, many items are prefilled, including the cert number

many sellers search for what they have, and hit the SELL NOW button to start a listing

I have no idea if this seller knew they were scamming or just unaware.

MFeld · January 2, 2021 7:36AM

@davewesen said:
part of the problem is caused by eBay - so you could say they are the scammer

Here is the coin partially described -> https://ebay.com/itm/1896-O-MORGAN-S-1-PCGS-MS-64/203026390182?hash=item2f4550dca6:g:IMIAAOSwdihf8CEz

below the pictures is a button that says $ have one to sell SELL NOW

if you hit the SELL NOW button, many items are prefilled, including the cert number

many sellers search for what they have, and hit the SELL NOW button to start a listing

I have no idea if this seller knew they were scamming or just unaware.,

Even though it’s a different example than the listed cert number, if - giant if - the seller actually has and will deliver the coin pictured in his listing I wouldn’t call it a scam.

Mgarmy · January 2, 2021 7:38AM

Listing removed

Unknown · January 2, 2021 7:41AM

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davewesen · January 2, 2021 7:45AM

@MFeld said:

@davewesen said:
part of the problem is caused by eBay - so you could say they are the scammer

Here is the coin partially described -> https://ebay.com/itm/1896-O-MORGAN-S-1-PCGS-MS-64/203026390182?hash=item2f4550dca6:g:IMIAAOSwdihf8CEz

below the pictures is a button that says $ have one to sell SELL NOW

if you hit the SELL NOW button, many items are prefilled, including the cert number

many sellers search for what they have, and hit the SELL NOW button to start a listing

I have no idea if this seller knew they were scamming or just unaware.,

Even though it’s a different example than the listed cert number, if - giant if - the seller actually has and will deliver the coin pictured in his listing I wouldn’t call it a scam.

really?
Certification Number: 39031295

MFeld · January 2, 2021 7:58AM

@davewesen said:

@MFeld said:

@davewesen said:
part of the problem is caused by eBay - so you could say they are the scammer

Here is the coin partially described -> https://ebay.com/itm/1896-O-MORGAN-S-1-PCGS-MS-64/203026390182?hash=item2f4550dca6:g:IMIAAOSwdihf8CEz

below the pictures is a button that says $ have one to sell SELL NOW

if you hit the SELL NOW button, many items are prefilled, including the cert number

many sellers search for what they have, and hit the SELL NOW button to start a listing

I have no idea if this seller knew they were scamming or just unaware.,

Even though it’s a different example than the listed cert number, if - giant if - the seller actually has and will deliver the coin pictured in his listing I wouldn’t call it a scam.

really?
Certification Number: 39031295

What’s your “really?” asking? His listing includes a picture of an MS64 and while it’s a real long shot, he could have the pictured coin, but listed the cert number incorrectly. See the post two above this one for innocent examples of that, even by an experienced seller.

I’ll repeat my post that elicited your reply: Even though it’s a different example than the listed cert number, if - giant if - the seller actually has and will deliver the coin pictured in his listing I wouldn’t call it a scam.

Unknown · January 2, 2021 7:59AM

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MFeld · January 2, 2021 7:59AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@MFeld said:

@davewesen said:
part of the problem is caused by eBay - so you could say they are the scammer

Here is the coin partially described -> https://ebay.com/itm/1896-O-MORGAN-S-1-PCGS-MS-64/203026390182?hash=item2f4550dca6:g:IMIAAOSwdihf8CEz

below the pictures is a button that says $ have one to sell SELL NOW

if you hit the SELL NOW button, many items are prefilled, including the cert number

many sellers search for what they have, and hit the SELL NOW button to start a listing

I have no idea if this seller knew they were scamming or just unaware.,

Even though it’s a different example than the listed cert number, if - giant if - the seller actually has and will deliver the coin pictured in his listing I wouldn’t call it a scam.

Happens to me all the time. Sometimes I just forget to change the cert number in the field of one of my own listings when I'm doing multiple listings. Sometimes I forget to change the date or the type.

As you say, it is only a scam if the seller doesn't have the coin in hand. It is suspicious that they have zero feedback and the 1st coin they sell is a 5 figure coin. But stranger things have happened.

And, as I mentioned in an earlier post, the seller already “sold” the same coin last month.

How did your post on that topic end up above mine, even though mine was a minute earlier?😮

Unknown · January 2, 2021 8:02AM

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davewesen · January 2, 2021 8:03AM

I was going off the first post in this thread

Unknown · January 2, 2021 8:04AM

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MFeld · January 2, 2021 8:08AM

@jmlanzaf said:

@MFeld said:

@jmlanzaf said:

@MFeld said:

@davewesen said:
part of the problem is caused by eBay - so you could say they are the scammer

Here is the coin partially described -> https://ebay.com/itm/1896-O-MORGAN-S-1-PCGS-MS-64/203026390182?hash=item2f4550dca6:g:IMIAAOSwdihf8CEz

below the pictures is a button that says $ have one to sell SELL NOW

if you hit the SELL NOW button, many items are prefilled, including the cert number

many sellers search for what they have, and hit the SELL NOW button to start a listing

I have no idea if this seller knew they were scamming or just unaware.,

Even though it’s a different example than the listed cert number, if - giant if - the seller actually has and will deliver the coin pictured in his listing I wouldn’t call it a scam.

Happens to me all the time. Sometimes I just forget to change the cert number in the field of one of my own listings when I'm doing multiple listings. Sometimes I forget to change the date or the type.

As you say, it is only a scam if the seller doesn't have the coin in hand. It is suspicious that they have zero feedback and the 1st coin they sell is a 5 figure coin. But stranger things have happened.

And, as I mentioned in an earlier post, the seller already “sold” the same coin last month.

Yes, I know. He's an 1896-O specialist.

No, he’s a PCGS MS64 1896-O specialist.😉

Unknown · January 2, 2021 8:11AM

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ricko · January 2, 2021 8:16AM

Listing has been pulled... so obviously some issue of note. Will likely come up again though.... Thanks for the pictures. Cheers, RickO

johnny9434 · January 2, 2021 2:35PM

It never ceases 😦

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