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RayboRaybo Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I'll just post images and than you can try to guess my concerns....


PCGS PR65 BRN, something looks off to my old eyes, any takers?
Thanks as always.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,141 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The shield (obverse?) side looks to have an unnatural color, and the WE portion of the ribbon seems to show rub.
    But I’m not used to seeing Proof two cent pieces, so maybe this is normal.

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    CalifornianKingCalifornianKing Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭✭

    Corrosion?

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    ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "try to guess my concerns...."

    I'm guessing you don't like the untoned area on the shield.

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Oldhoopster said:
    I'll post my answers and see if you can guess which one is right.

    Yes
    No
    Maybe

    :)

    Thanks for your help hoopster.

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Raybo said:

    @Oldhoopster said:
    I'll post my answers and see if you can guess which one is right.

    Yes
    No
    Maybe

    :)

    Thanks for your help hoopster.

    Scratch "help".....thanks for your OPINION hoopster.

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    abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Re-toned over old baking soda cleaning?

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    ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Re-colored?

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm thinking that is just not a photogenic coin. Unless you want to roll the dice, You need to look at it in person or have someone you trust look at it for you. Copper can look great in hand but develop strange appearances when lit and photographed.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2020 5:23AM

    I found the listing and the color looks natural in the other set of images (with the coin and the holder). If you’d like me to view the coin in hand and report back, feel free to email me at: mfeld@ha.com

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,411 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmmmm...me thinks there's damage concealed on the obv, above WE in the field. Peace Roy

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's fake

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's Mint State

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's tooled

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's recolored

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's an off-metal error

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It's Mint State

    It’s a proof-only issue.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PVC

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You don't have enough funds

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2020 5:35AM

    See additional images of coin and holder. My guess is that they’re more representative of the coin’s appearance.

    https://coins.ha.com/itm/two-cent-pieces/two-and-three-cents/1873-2c-open-3-pr65-brown-pcgs-pcgs-3654-/a/1326-3386.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Your wife would kill you

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's tooled> @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It's Mint State

    It’s a proof-only issue.

    True. Then that would be a real problem, wouldn't it? LOL

    I hate guessing games.

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 16,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 25, 2020 5:47AM

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It's tooled> @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    It's Mint State

    It’s a proof-only issue.

    True. Then that would be a real problem, wouldn't it? LOL

    I hate guessing games.

    Deleted, in order to avoid repetition.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The discoloration in the upper portion of the shield made me look closer. However, I can see nothing that indicates problems.... basically a nice specimen. Cheers, RickO

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Personally, I like it. The Heritage and Stacks' up close glamour shots flood the coin with too much light making color hard to judge.

    There is a little something above "We" but I don't think it is anything major. The rim denticles at around 1:00 on the obverse are a little sloppy

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    pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look at the in-slab picture and not the True View. And if you are looking to bid or buy, I'd take Mark up on that offer ... but I like it based on the in-slab photo. Unfortunately I think the TV makes it look like it threw up on itself.


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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have been waiting to see what the possible issue is. I have little experience with proofs but I am not seeing anything "wrong" here. I would prefer more even toning on the shield lines and less spots. After seeing the slab shots that MFeld pointed to I don't those same concerns except for that one spot between the E and D of UNITED. That spot bugs me a little. Otherwise a nice looking coin.

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,359 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Don’t like the color. Unless it looks drastically different in hand, I would hard pass and wait for another to come along. Tons of proof two centers and three centers on eBay.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,523 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The obverse colors looks off like it might have been cleaned. I also don't care for the carbon spots on a gem. Maybe it looks differently in hand?

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:
    The obverse colors looks off like it might have been cleaned. I also don't care for the carbon spots on a gem. Maybe it looks differently in hand?

    My thought was old cleaning?
    I'll email Mark and have him have a look see.

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    Don’t like the color. Unless it looks drastically different in hand, I would hard pass and wait for another to come along. Tons of proof two centers and three centers on eBay.

    The open 3 is a toughie.

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    You don't have enough funds

    Funds are not a problem, and I got rid of my wife over 20 years ago.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 42,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Raybo said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    You don't have enough funds

    Funds are not a problem, and I got rid of my wife over 20 years ago.

    LOL.

    Did they find the body?

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    RayboRaybo Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Raybo said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    You don't have enough funds

    Funds are not a problem, and I got rid of my wife over 20 years ago.

    LOL.

    Did they find the body?

    Nope!

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