Photos can be deceiving!

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cardinal
cardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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With photos generally the same size, you may not get the real perspective.

So, I picked two medals to demonstrate that!

Here’s photo #1:

Here’s photo #2:

Which is the larger or smaller in reality?

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  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wood grain answers the question.

  • cardinal
    cardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    But, you see the medals were taken in two different rooms, with different flooring.

  • coinsarefun
    coinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Impossible to know. Images are always deceiving........even if not meant to be

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I thought the 2nd was the smaller due to the loop attached for hanging around the neck on a chain.

    WAG

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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    bottom is larger

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  • lkeigwin
    lkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 24, 2020 11:46AM
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    I'll guess the first is smaller because of the photo's weaker resolution, a result of enlarging the image.

    Is the 2nd photo taken with the camera square to the medal? Or at an angle?
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  • messydesk
    messydesk Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The first seems smaller because of the lack of sharpness in the engraving at that magnification.

    John
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  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Knowing how some of those types come...I'm going to say the bottom oval shaped one is smaller!

  • MarkInDavis
    MarkInDavis Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭✭
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    I agree. First is smaller, but also agree that photos can be deceiving.

    image Respectfully, Mark
  • jesbroken
    jesbroken Posts: 11,252 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    2nd smallest of the two


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  • Mr_Spud
    Mr_Spud Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I can’t tell. Reminds me of the time I ordered a fancy looking backless couch for our front room online. When it arrived it was just 3 feet long. I figured out that it’s meant to sit at the foot of a bed instead of being couch sized. I had wondered why it was so cheap.

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  • cardinal
    cardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The smaller one is 6 inches from top to bottom, and imagine how big the larger one is!!

  • fathom
    fathom Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think we already knew that about photography.

  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    didn't expect that size difference.

    which one goes on the necklace?

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  • boiler78
    boiler78 Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So the larger one can double as a shield.......

  • gonzer
    gonzer Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You'd need an anchor chain to wear that around your neck.

  • Batman23
    Batman23 Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'd like to see you wearing the one with the chain loop attached B)

  • cardinal
    cardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MsMorrisine said:
    didn't expect that size difference.

    which one goes on the necklace?

    Yes! I was NOT expecting the second medal to be so large! If only Andre the Giant was still alive!!!

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  • messydesk
    messydesk Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @cardinal said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    didn't expect that size difference.

    which one goes on the necklace?

    Yes! I was NOT expecting the second medal to be so large! If only Andre the Giant was still alive!!!

    Dang! I don't even think Flava Flav would try wearing that.

    John
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  • Jimnight
    Jimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I guess the first one is bigger. The second one is a metal that you might wear around your neck.

  • NumisOxide
    NumisOxide Posts: 11,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow that is massive!

  • cardinal
    cardinal Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I just measured it, and it is 13 inches from top to bottom.

    Here how this looks with me holding it up in front of my chest:

    It weighs just under 2 kilos!!! I think that would give someone a real pain in the neck!!!

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @cardinal said:
    I just measured it, and it is 13 inches from top to bottom.

    Here how this looks with me holding it up in front of my chest:

    It weighs just under 2 kilos!!! I think that would give someone a real pain in the neck!!!

    Damn, but you don't know how strong my wife's neck is.............lol

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  • Hydrant
    Hydrant Posts: 7,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @AUandAG said:

    @cardinal said:
    I just measured it, and it is 13 inches from top to bottom.

    Here how this looks with me holding it up in front of my chest:

    It weighs just under 2 kilos!!! I think that would give someone a real pain in the neck!!!

    Damn, but you don't know how strong my wife's neck is.............lol

    bob :)

    I would assume that your wife's neck is mighty strong. Like most other wives' necks. After all, they dutifully go through life with us husbands hanging on around their necks. And they never complain.

  • rhedden
    rhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    This post reminds me of that ancient, classic thread where a forum member got negative feedback on eBay because the buyer couldn't believe how small the half dime was that he received. That thread was an all-time great.

  • ElKevvo
    ElKevvo Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow...I thought the ARA was smaller but had no clue that the larger medal was that large! Thanks for posting the photos!

    K

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  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Hydrant said:

    @AUandAG said:

    @cardinal said:
    I just measured it, and it is 13 inches from top to bottom.

    Here how this looks with me holding it up in front of my chest:

    It weighs just under 2 kilos!!! I think that would give someone a real pain in the neck!!!

    Damn, but you don't know how strong my wife's neck is.............lol

    bob :)

    I would assume that your wife's neck is mighty strong. Like most other wives' necks. After all, they dutifully go through life with us husbands hanging on around their necks. And they never complain.

    HAPPY WIFE, HAPPY LIFE!

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  • jmlanzaf
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    Slightly different question: Is it accurate to refer to that large bronze wall sculpture as a medal?

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  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That's not a medal it's a plaque!

    @cardinal said:
    I just measured it, and it is 13 inches from top to bottom.

    Here how this looks with me holding it up in front of my chest:

    It weighs just under 2 kilos!!! I think that would give someone a real pain in the neck!!!

  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Certainly proves the original statement about how deceptive photographs can be.... I would not have expected how large that one actually is....Cheers, RickO

  • oih82w8
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    Magnificent piece nonetheless! It would command a presence in just about any room hanging on the wall.

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  • Bigbuck1975
    Bigbuck1975 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Look at the hardwood floor the bottom appears way bigger

  • tokenpro
    tokenpro Posts: 940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is it foundry or artist signed on the reverse?

  • ModCrewman
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    @jmlanzaf said:
    Slightly different question: Is it accurate to refer to that large bronze wall sculpture as a medal?

    I have no idea, but would it need to have been "struck" to be considered a medal as opposed to a sculpture?

  • YQQ
    YQQ Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2020 10:00AM
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    IF you take both items with the same camera, same distance, same lighting same all-around settings, the real truth will show.
    there are many other "tricks" that can be used to show an object in a better "light".Many sellers, especially on Feebay use the camera equipment to their advantage to make the images look better than the item is.
    The masters are the European Auction houses and dealers. Many, use B&W, a method where you see only strong B&W silhouettes and let you guess what grade it is, although they grade then after "their own" grading system. which stretches like a rubber band. I must also say that some of them, the more honest ones, post real pictures.

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    @ModCrewman said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Slightly different question: Is it accurate to refer to that large bronze wall sculpture as a medal?

    I have no idea, but would it need to have been "struck" to be considered a medal as opposed to a sculpture?

    No, there are many medals throughout history that are cast rather than struck. The following definitions of plaquette and plaque taken from Dick Johnson's "Encyclopedia Of Coin And Medal Terminology" that was recently reprinted in The E-Sylum may be of help:

    "Plaquette. An art relief smaller than eight inches (or more precisely, 20 centimeters), which bears a bas-relief design. While plaquettes are usually considered square, rectangular, or nearly so, they appear in a variety of shapes, and can be somewhat more creative with silhouetted, open work, sunken relief, or other sculptural techniques. Plaquettes do not share the restrictions of a round medallic item. In effect, plaquettes are the most artistic – and because they can be easily mounted – the most utilitarian form of medallic art.

    Unlike plaques, which are always uniface and larger than eight inches, plaquettes occasionally have a reverse design, particularly those that are diestruck since they are struck with two dies. Otherwise plaquettes have been made by every method that can reproduce a bas-relief design: many forms of casting, electroforming, repoussé, niello, and forging."

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