The excitement is hardly over that coin is awesome. Somebody's heart must have sank the first time they flipped it over and saw a 45,000 scratch. Still a great catch!
@CoinscratchFever said:
The excitement is hardly over that coin is awesome. Somebody's heart must have sank the first time they flipped it over and saw a 45,000 scratch. Still a great catch!
Where is the location of the scratch you are referring to?
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
@CoinscratchFever said:
The excitement is hardly over that coin is awesome. Somebody's heart must have sank the first time they flipped it over and saw a 45,000 scratch. Still a great catch!
Where is the location of the scratch you are referring to?
The big set of deep scratches that your eyes immediately focus on. Just left of the lower left wing.
OK. I was wondering if you were referring to a singular scratch.
I see the same area you are talking about along with a possible patch of marks next to it on the wing and a couple marks on the breast feathers. Also some marks near Liberty's mouth. Hard to tell how significant those are without seeing in-person. Taken together looks to be what prevented an even higher grade.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
@CoinscratchFever said:
The excitement is hardly over that coin is awesome. Somebody's heart must have sank the first time they flipped it over and saw a 45,000 scratch. Still a great catch!
Where is the location of the scratch you are referring to?
The big set of deep scratches that your eyes immediately focus on. Just left of the lower left wing.
Yes, it's what holds it back, under the eagle's wing. The cheek you have to twirl >angle< the coin to see it.
You have a good eye WinLoseWin. I didn't see myself drawn to that mark immediately, but it's there.
Which tells me PCGS is the premier grading service.
There's a new video system for seeing coins "David Lawrence" has it on some of his coins. Probably that will make it all easier for us to see coins.
Where is the location of the scratch you are referring to?
The big set of deep scratches that your eyes immediately focus on. Just left of the lower left wing.
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mine went to the gouge in the front part of the hair above the forehead. i also persued/perused all the ms65 and better coinfacts image, there are many surprisingly and nearly all of them had one series dig/ding/bang or another. they were NOT polite to those n'orleans dollars.
Where is the location of the scratch you are referring to?
The big set of deep scratches that your eyes immediately focus on. Just left of the lower left wing.
.
mine went to the gouge in the front part of the hair above the forehead. i also persued/perused all the ms65 and better coinfacts image, there are many surprisingly and nearly all of them had one series dig/ding/bang or another. they were NOT polite to those n'orleans dollars.
Somehow I completely missed that. It was not very visible in the original photos, but still did not notice it in the full slab photo until you mentioned it. Hidden enough to not bring the grade down, but part of what keeps it from being higher.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Where is the location of the scratch you are referring to?
The big set of deep scratches that your eyes immediately focus on. Just left of the lower left wing.
.
mine went to the gouge in the front part of the hair above the forehead. i also persued/perused all the ms65 and better coinfacts image, there are many surprisingly and nearly all of them had one series dig/ding/bang or another. they were NOT polite to those n'orleans dollars.
And I didn’t even see that till you mentioned it, I was focusing on the second image. This coin is listed in the auction results / Congrats to Soldi
Soldi's photography is Seven hundred and eighty percent larger than the coin in hand. The area upon the cheek
and temple is hardly noticeable. Worthy of a higher grade. The reverse viewers left wing has a very small staple scratch cluster and cluster is an exaggeration, but there is NO GOUGE. You're seeing a photo Seven hundred and eighty percent larger than the coin in hand aka 780 % . You have an opinion "never back off and patronize those who disagree.
Remember whether you're talented or not you're on the PCGS boards and that says a lot about who you are. The Best.
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another date from those images by 2018-2021 standards, ms66+
unless something i'm missing, i'll go ms65
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I would guess MS65 ... marks on cheek and forehead...mark on eagles breast, wing and under wing. Cheers, RickO
I am thinking MS64
64-maybe 65, really nice looking Morgan
64+
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You guys are tough and very sharp graders. Thank you for playing.
a shield holder, 3 prong and blue fade. if you made that one, gratz!
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I like it.
Well... I missed the +, but got the grade....Cheers, RickO
The excitement is hardly over that coin is awesome. Somebody's heart must have sank the first time they flipped it over and saw a 45,000 scratch. Still a great catch!
Where is the location of the scratch you are referring to?
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
The big set of deep scratches that your eyes immediately focus on. Just left of the lower left wing.
Maybe it only goes 66 or plus w/o. ?
OK. I was wondering if you were referring to a singular scratch.
I see the same area you are talking about along with a possible patch of marks next to it on the wing and a couple marks on the breast feathers. Also some marks near Liberty's mouth. Hard to tell how significant those are without seeing in-person. Taken together looks to be what prevented an even higher grade.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
Very true, the photo may be enhancing the light/damage too. Sorry, not a single scratch but probably from a single ride in a wagon or a U-Haul.
Don't get me wrong, I love the coin. Just trying to understand the hows and whys.
Yes, it's what holds it back, under the eagle's wing. The cheek you have to twirl >angle< the coin to see it.
You have a good eye WinLoseWin. I didn't see myself drawn to that mark immediately, but it's there.
Which tells me PCGS is the premier grading service.
There's a new video system for seeing coins "David Lawrence" has it on some of his coins. Probably that will make it all easier for us to see coins.
.
mine went to the gouge in the front part of the hair above the forehead. i also persued/perused all the ms65 and better coinfacts image, there are many surprisingly and nearly all of them had one series dig/ding/bang or another. they were NOT polite to those n'orleans dollars.
<--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -
Somehow I completely missed that. It was not very visible in the original photos, but still did not notice it in the full slab photo until you mentioned it. Hidden enough to not bring the grade down, but part of what keeps it from being higher.
"To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin
And I didn’t even see that till you mentioned it, I was focusing on the second image. This coin is listed in the auction results / Congrats to Soldi
and temple is hardly noticeable. Worthy of a higher grade. The reverse viewers left wing has a very small staple scratch cluster and cluster is an exaggeration, but there is NO GOUGE. You're seeing a photo Seven hundred and eighty percent larger than the coin in hand aka 780 % . You have an opinion "never back off and patronize those who disagree.
Remember whether you're talented or not you're on the PCGS boards and that says a lot about who you are. The Best.