Is it time for CU to add a Token & Medal Forum?
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There seems to be a lot of interest in them.
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Yes.
No (and I do collect medals and tokens, as well as coins). There is no real benefit to breaking up the U. S. Coin Forum. Most of the medal and token posts come from a couple of dozen members. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
In addition, there are numerous relationships between medals/tokens and coins: common designers, tokens struck over coins (vice-versa in at least one case), medals made at the Philadelphia Mint, etc. Coin collectors can learn a great deal from token/medal collectors, and vice-versa.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
leave things as they are the forum works well as it is
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Moderator can move all of my posts relating to tokens and medals to Q&A if preferred and I can begin posting there If that is preferred.
No! While I don't collect medals + tokens, I enjoy the posts and history about them posted here. I probably wouldn't look if they were in their own separate category.
I'd certainly read and partake in a such a forum. I would like to see it encompass both U.S. and world medals and tokens.
I wouldn't specifically visit that section of the board, but I do like seeing them posted.
If you want to be certain that 90% of the people who see the topics now won't see them in the future, then yes.
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No. The coin forum is already boring enough as it is. The tokens and medals add a lot to the coin forum.
Do you really want to be reading about Morgan Dollars and pocket change "errors" all day?
To expound on my YES......if there was such a forum I think the other forums would benefit from a lot of fresh blood. I think that a fresh token forum would be good for all.
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Just because we get a few new collectors that make several threads a day is not reason enough to erase it from the forum.
Tokens and medals add depth and interest to the forum, so, no
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Splitting up a forum is a great way to hasten its demise.
No I think it should be left alone. It's been thin here as it is
A similar argument can be made for creating a separate Error Coins forum.
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No. Posts would get very little attention compared to the U.S. forum. As they say, If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
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This thread is in need of a nice medal.
In fact here are 2 medals.
Both Vatican Papal medals are of Pope Gregory XIII 1575. The first an original in copper and the
second an 18th century restrike in bronze. Both reverses depict the opening of the Holy Door
which occurs once every 25 years.
Going the other way, given the world coins and medals I’ve seen here, I’ve actually been wondering if US and World coins should be combined!
Ask Mark. He wears the pants. Let him decide.
I do support a “Limited Mintage Product de US Mint” forum, though.
I actually like using tags a lot, however, I don’t see them used a lot.
What do people think of tags here?
Absolutely not for the reasons @Sonorandesertrat and @TomB said
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Yes
We had a similar situation several years ago. People were complaining about all the discussions about precious metals in the US Coin Forum so it was decided by the PCGS leadership to create a separate Precious Metals Forum. It worked out well and the Precious Metals Forum has seen a lot of use.
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Splitting off precious metal discussions makes sense, because these overwhelmingly focus on spot price, wet dreams, etc. Issues pertaining to tokens and medals are quite similar to ones that are relevant to coins.
These are different animals.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
One could argue that many US coins are made of precious metals and many US coins have their value tied directly to their bullion value. On the other hand, tokens and metals are not US coins anymore than world coins are US coins and we have a separate forum for world coins.
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PerryHall,
That is certainly true for generic U. S. gold coins in grades through MS66. Spot price will not affect pre-WWI silver coins, or even many pre-WWII silver coins, unless they are generics. People who post here are not overwhelmingly preoccupied with pricing or price speculation, unlike what I have seen on the Precious Metals posts.
Tokens and medals are certainly not U. S. coins, but my point---see a prior comment of mine---about important interrelationships still stands, and this is why tokens and medals should not be split off from the U. S. Coins section.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
I agree there will be less traffic. For example, I like and and have World Coins but rarely visit the forum. I think others are the same because I see a number of world coins and medals posted in US Coin forum.
I would like to see tokens and medals continue to be a part of this forum. There are very attractive medals and certainly some interesting tokens.... Also history is attached to both types....I think posts showing tokens and medals is good information and adds to the health of discussions and posts. Cheers, RickO
Keep it the way it is and use tags to distinguish between the different US areas of interest. The cross-pollination of the US areas of interest keeps the US Coin forum lively.
I'm a US Mint medal enthusiast and here is an attempt to cross-pollinate US coin collectors.
There is novel idea buried in US Mint documents to differentiate between its manufactured products.
Be cognizant that pattern, die trial, and experimental coins or medals are not normally legally issued, but are specifically used by the US Mint to improve and perfect the execution of its primary mission to manufacture coins and medals for the U.S. Government.
With that said, here are two data sets (1962 and 1990) used to flush out the "US Mint's manufacturing triad" using a repeatable research method called cluster analysis.
Hence, the "Manufacturing Triad of the US Mint" can be readily seen.
The following diagram depicts the means to authorize the US Mint to manufacture.
This is where the fun begins. Special Medals for US Government Agencies do not require an enacted federal law (for the medals themselves) to authorize the US Mint to manufacture. Another authorization method is used. What is this authorization method? (part of my research area of interest)
On the reverse of the Kennedy half-dollar, Frank Gasparro placed his FG initials under the right leg of the eagle. Take note of this in the following examples.
Special Government Medal Example: Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) honor award.
Frank Gasparro initials on the obverse and reverse.
Special Government Medal Example: President Kennedy Appreciation medal.
F. Gasparro name on the obverse and initials on the reverse.
Special Government Medal Example: Department of Commerce honor award.
Frank Gasparro initials on the obverse and reverse.
Special Government Medal Example: Size and metal difference of Department of Commerce honor awards.
Lastly, a combination of Special Government Medal and National Medals with Frank Gasparro's dual torch design. I call this the 1961-1962-1963 Trifecta Torch Run Design of Frank Gasparro. Yep, dual torch design used in three consecutive years.
From Left to Right: 1960 Eisenhower Appreciation medal (Special Government Medal), 1961 Kennedy inauguration medal (National Medal), and 1962 Douglas MacArthur Congressional Gold Medal (bronze) (National Medal).
I hope that this entry brings new interest to US Mint medals. The information presented was shared among multiple forums on different websites.