1913 pcgs ms68 buffalo nickel type one on eBay right now opening bid 20K with CAC!
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Well worth a look a 1913 type one ms68 pcgs buffalo nickel wit da green bean on eBay now.
opening bid is $20,000.
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That is one gorgeous Buff!
Wow! @crazyhounddog, what do you think?
Lance.
As beautiful as they are, I couldn’t ever bring myself to buy colored buffaloes. Not after a certain ex forum member dealer bragged about getting anything he created holdered.
I'm not so thrilled with it to be honest. I seen much nicer in 67. Maybe it's the image but it doesn't do much for me.
Maybe in hand it pops, however the photo looks dull and dark.
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Here is one that is a 68+* on ebay for 35K obo.
Who was this?
I agree. CHD's buffalos have crazy luster. This one doesn't show much and looks kind of dull from the photos.
Here are a couple from my collection neither are graded 68. I don't think the OP coin is worthy of the grade assigned.
66
67+
I have saved an image of the one you picture, ifthevamzarockin. What a coin!
I don't know...I think the OP coin is a little soft on the Buffalo's shoulder. (sarcasm)
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Agreed, but it stickered. The coin gods have spoken.
Too late in the toning stage to warrant a 68 grade IMO. Wasn't rescued early enough from the environment it suffered from to reach that level of corrosion. The 2nd coin displayed is in an earlier stage of toning. My coin is in a far later stage especially the obverse but for only $100. The bright gold on the reverse is not as relevant in hand as shown in the TrueView. But have recently learned that that color fares much better under LED lighting.
Leo
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Can you imagine if the OP coin had color of the NGC 68+* ?? Now that might be one of the best out there that ive seen ever. Yet again the ngc example looks to have a few to many ticks for my likeing IMHO
Nice, but it looks color bumped by 1.5 grades.
Frequent flyer miles?
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They don't come any nicer! Than a Fully struck Buff. pictures of some "Real" Blazers in this Post!!
I'd rather have a nice MS65 and then use the thousands saved to buy other coins.
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Great comments from all, and I too would rather have a great ms66 specimen and have money left over to by
my next coin!
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Agree. There's a point of diminishing returns where a one grade increase results in a huge increase in price. I always try to buy the highest grade before there is a big jump in price in the next higher grade. In other words, the highest grade that makes sense.
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I don't think much of the OP's MS68. I would rather have either of Joe's coins, which truly are luster bombs.
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Now if this coin had either of Joe's coins luster it would be a top ever Buffalo Nickel. Wow! comes to mind.
Jim
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I prefer luster to tarnish.... surprise, surprise...
I agree with @PerryHall regarding grade/price. Even with 'disposable income', I consider my purchases. Cheers, RickO
beat me to the punch, what is a 66 like a 100$ coin. That is crazy but as far as nickels go that is a nice one
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
It is just another very common date coin with plastic and sticker that a certain segment of the buying public loves.
It's all about "competitive collecting", and the basis among those who have the resources and enjoy that pursuit always seems to be the assigned grade.
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My mind reader refuses to charge me. . . . . . .
I just checked on coin facts at the other 68s graded. Check out the 68+ it has hits right on the cheek and is a weakly struck IMHO.
If it's who I think it is, he wasn't doing anything as sophisticated as this. That said, this is not my series, but the only attractive toning I am familiar with on a Buff is the gold rims with ice blue centers that is seen on some 38 Ds.
Secondly, I've been around long enough to wonder if a coin which appears to be too attractively toned doesn't have 'issues.' Some of best and brightest get fooled occasionally.
Thirdly, I don't play in this end of the pool. I avoid top pops because they are too expensive for me, and most have a nasty habit of not remaining top pops, given enough time.
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That's nice!
I understand your request!
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Waste of money. $20K would buy me a pretty nice 1916 DblDie Obv. that I wouldn't even have to treat with Nic-A-Date.
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Tho I love the '13-1, I'd much rather have a 16/16 in high circulated grade.
The '13 type one is a great design. But when one can buy a hammered gem for just few hundred....for $20K....no...
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Friction
Friction as in wear you are observing on the piece that is the subject of this thread or as friction resulting from difference of opinion about valuation of said piece?
I watched a great Pawn Stars presentation on YouTube recently. It's PAWN STARS: TOP COINS OF ALL TIME (20 RARE & EXPENSIVE COINS|HISTORY.
Lots of interesting observations to make about sellers can be made from watching this show.
There was an especially interesting segment (at least to me) in their presentation when the wealthy collector walked into the shop with two pieces for sale. One piece was a 1792 Half Disme in PCGS MS65. The other a Libertus Americana medal, an original, dated 1781. Walter, the owner, wanted $800K for the pair.
Rick was content to pass on the half disme (disme pronounced "diz me") stating that he wouldn't be able to sell it in his store. The other piece, the medal, a PCGS MS61, Walter was asking $200K. Rick ended up buying it for $150K.
The 1792 half disme has very uniform grey toning to go along with its lofty grade. I wondered if the half disme is finest known or at least tied for finest known. It's a stunner.
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I've always wondered why strike is such a small factor in grading these coins.
There is no "novel" design element that's hyped for the Buffalo nickel, like full bands on the Merc 10c or full head for the SL 25c. The closest detail I can recall is a "split tail," which is totally meaningless. Instead of hyping one small design element it would make more sense, in my opinion, to state that a coin is "fully struck." How many full head quarters have you seen with a sharp, full head and a weak shield? Many Buffalo nickels are unknown with full detailing. The same situation exists for Walking Liberty half dollars, too.
To expand a bit on KoyneKwest’s comments here, there is an outfit that puts little stickers on some of your coins to
denote the presence of special characteristic such as FULL SPLIT TAIL on the buffalo nickel. See pictures following my
comments. This company is affiliated with the former owner of the Accugrade coin grading service which is no longer in
business.
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OOPS! forgot to post the reverse with coin shown above, here it is with the “footstool” or FSTL sticker as I call it.
Sure is hard to tell if this coin has a FULL TAIL, OR IS IT A FOOL TAIL
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This outfit should have come up with a FHRN sticker (for full horn) which might have been accepted.
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Probably by more that that...........
Pete
Probably by more that that...........
go to CoinFacts and find the coin to view it in a larger format, I think you might change your opinion. there are no obvious marks and nothing distracting whatsoever, unless you have a complaint about the tone. also, consider that others posting pictures they've taken of their coins have gone to great lengths to show those coins as good as they can possibly be. that is a good thing, but it makes it difficult to objectively compare coins. what I notice about the OP coin is the strength of strike and the fields, superior in my eyes to the other coins posted.
And I agree with all you say here. But all in all this coin is beautiful. We could argue all day long whether this was a 68
67+ or 67! If money is no object to you the potential buyer then it is a 68. And yes toning does in my mind bump up the
grade. Just wait till we get an MS69 buffalo nickel and see the massive “food fight” over it by people building registry sets.
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Just think this MS68 is worth more than a matte proof PR68 from either pcgs or ngc. Go figure!!>
Just think this MS68 is worth more than a matte proof PR68 from either pcgs or ngc. Go figure!!
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the nuances that affect grade at this level can be very subtle which is why I think most of the highest graded coins are toned. also, when we're looking at images from 4-10 inches in diameter it's really easy to micro-grade and criticize, all of which makes luster important. I have shown non-collectors some of my better stuff and there's an almost universal, one-word response --- Wow!!
I think with this Nickel most of us would have the same reaction in-hand.
Just wait till we get an MS69 buffalo nickel
Seems like if there was such a beast we'd already know about it.
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I don’t think an MS68 is worth as much as a Proof 68. A prices realized comparison between business strikes and Proofs is far more relevant than the asking price of a Proof that hasn’t sold.
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