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TPG using PCGS lookalike slabs

ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited July 26, 2020 9:43AM in U.S. Coin Forum

There's a TPG out there, ACGA, that uses PCGS-like slabs. At least they have their own logo in the lower right.

ACGA is Authoritative Coin Grading Agency.

Interestingly, their website indicates copyright dates of 2007-2012 so I wonder if they are still active.


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    LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    here is a scan of the page fwiw - if someone has a better one please say so.

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Re ACGA, the internet archive shows them from 2013 (copyrights does say 2007-2012). It looks like they primarily grade Chinese coins.

    The cert# still verifies so they have at least the web and database still up, likely are still in business.

    They also have NGC-style holders.

    Not sure I would trust their verification skills - one of the coins I bought in their slab was attributed to Tibet, it's actually Afganistan.

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    :/

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,489 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @astrorat said:


    Wow! They even have this down to the yellowing ring!

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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    don't believe PCGS manufactures their own slabs. Likely outsourced to same company as slabs in OP.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

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    BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS has slabs manufactured for them, however they own the molds and use a proprietary blend of plastic, so it should be unique to them. Which is not to say there couldn't be "ghost shift" slabs made. And it's easy to make something that looks closely like the PCGS slab.

    -----Burton
    ANA 50+ year/Life Member (now "Emeritus")
    Author: 3rd Edition of the SampleSlabs book, https://sampleslabs.info/
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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do those slabs come with fortune cookies?

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 33,010 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This ACGA site is copyright 2019
    Authoritative Coin Grading Agency http://acga111.cn/
    must still be in business

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 9,406 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So, we'll have one from column A and two from column B. And some extra packets of plum sauce prease. Peace Roy

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That makes two TPG's I have not seen....ACGA and TCGS....I have to get out more.... :D Not likely to help in this little town....I miss the big (and little, but frequent) coin shows in the PNW... For me, this forum is my coin show...Cheers, RickO

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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting !!! 😜

    Timbuk3
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BStrauss3 said:
    PCGS has slabs manufactured for them, however they own the molds and use a proprietary blend of plastic, so it should be unique to them. Which is not to say there couldn't be "ghost shift" slabs made. And it's easy to make something that looks closely like the PCGS slab.

    More likely just plain old Chinese counterfeit of the PCGS patent protected slabs. Wouldn't be the first time.

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