Mint Made or PMD??
JeffMTampa
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Here's a raw Barber Quarter that has either:
- Obvious post mint damage, or
- The coin was struck on a damaged planchet, or
- The coin has a strike thru error.
Although it appears to be a scratch at first glance, there are reasons I questions that thought:
- The depression is a perfectly straight line
- The depression is trough shaped with a rounded bottom.
- The depression is very pronounced in the high points, and either non-existent or weak in the low points.
My guess is it wasn't struck by something like a cold chisel; there's no sign of damage on the reverse.
In the enlarged photo one can see metal was pushed up out of the "trough". This would lead one to think PMD.
If this were a scratch I can't imagine how it could be so straight, and why it would be deep in the high points and recede into the fields.
Any thoughts on how the "damage" was caused would be appreciated. I plan on sending it to PCGS for grading due to the uncommon MM position.
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That to me is the largest indication of it being damaged after striking.
Additionally you can see in the ribbon, that there was movement of metal after striking, that’s why the ribbon is “pushed out” near the depression.
A lot of times, to ask how PMD could have been produced is fruitless. Absolutely anything could have happened to it, once it left the Mint, makings it’s rounds for the last 125 years.
It’s a very nice coin, if it wasn’t for this mark, the swirls on the temple and the rim damage at K3.
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Damage and a shame. It’s a nice looking coin otherwise.
PMD.
No question at all: PMD.
Don't know why the line is so straight and it doesn't matter - it's not for me to explain.
That's a scratch all day long.
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I'm 99% confident it's PMD as well, but I'm puzzled at how it could have been accomplished.
Anyone have a theory?
I agree with the consensus...PMD.....the displaced metal is obvious...Cheers, RickO
Some sort of a sharp edge scored the neck.
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Looks to me like something rolled across it with a fair amount of pressure rather than a scratch.
Just my 2 cents
Sliced and diced. Sorry.
Over time, you'll see plenty of these with the highest relief cut across, and the lower relied areas unscathed.
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I'll pile on ... no doubt about it ... scratch
Too bad too, because that's a good date and not entirely boinked up like some of them
Theory ... a coin surface is not large in the grander scheme of things, and a straight line of maybe ? 3/4" is really not that long a straight scratch ... if ... it was pulled across a counter or another otherwise flat surface that had a metal burr or screw head or hob nail sticking up a mm or so ...
... and as straight as that is it isn't perfectly straight as it jumps from device to device,, so the friction of the scratch varied as it was "slid".
After the scratch happened, the coin appears to have circulated a bit more, so I don't think it is a staple scratch. but it almost looks like one.
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