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Try grading this slabbed 1918-d buffalo nickel, you may be surprised at the grade on the holder!

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Take a stab at grading this 1918-d buffalo nickel. Looks like a nice coin to me. And with a full horn.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF-35 to XF-40ish. Strike looks a little weak near peripheries. Tail merges into body, with a flat, non 3D tail. Flatness on Black Diamonds head due to strike.

    The die looks like it's in a mid to late die state on reverse.

    Don't forget: this is grading from a picture, although I think it's easier with a circulated specimen.

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  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just based on your comments I'll go F15 - Grading seems to be all over the map on these earlier Buffalos.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would call it low XF...40 ....Cheers, RickO

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU53.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm guessing there's a lot more luster that what's showing up in your pics. Probably AU something.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go au 50ish fwiw

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 15,133 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll guess AU53.

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,387 ✭✭✭✭✭

    au50

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  • 1Bufffan1Bufffan Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭

    Typical weak reverse strike any other year would get an xf for the flat hip area but with this one a nice strike on obverse I'd say MS60 Just a guess. It is a nice 18! Not many coins make it into the 60 range most go to AU 55 or 58.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,649 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS61


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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2020 7:18AM

    Here is the slab -- and as some have said above really does not appear to be much if any actual wear on it!

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Somehow I knew that the coin would be in a new ANACS slab, I have seen some real head scratchers in that generation holder.

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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭

    my guess would have been 58.

    Tom

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,794 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Anacs graded that coin by the detail, and not by surface preservation. I would have guessed au-50 to 53. The anacs slab photos look more xf45ish

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unable to do agree and lol on the same thread... Sorry MFeld so agree it is.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinkat said:
    Unable to do agree and lol on the same thread... Sorry MFeld so agree it is.

    I was going to give him an LOL, but some people could construe that as me thinking his comment was
    totally wrong.....so I gave him a Like, but it is funny!

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  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was in for 50 :o

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D ... Agree... humor has its place in grading and numismatics. Let's just get to the point... Some grades just don't pass the straight face test. See BUFFNIX for exhibit A.

    FWIIW... I see 45 as a reasonable grade just to participate in the Straight Face Test

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  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The grade was not as ridiculous as my F15 guess but it's just another great example of how Buffalo Nickel collectors hate the grading room. Just like most others here, l agree the coin looks solid XF or AU in the photos.

  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2020 6:23PM

    It's a perfect example of why the horn should never have been used as a grading point. I once had an 18/17-D that had 3/4 horn and luster. It was graded raw as a Fine. This was well before slabs were used.

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    WOW. I was at MS61.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2020 6:36PM

    The guesses before the slab posted averaged to 48.

    It's an odd number because I rounded BuffaloIronTail's VF-35 to XF-40ish guess to 37.

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ANACS at times confuses strike with wear. I recall an ANACS AU55 1866 25c I picked up around 16 yrs ago. Despite the horribly struck centers as most of these are, the fields and rims had full luster. Coin was MS63ish. Too bad the coin was AT to boot which negated some of the mis-grade.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a solid 53 with my eyes

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @koynekwest said:
    It's a perfect example of why the horn should never have been used as a grading point. I once had an 18/17-D that had 3/4 horn and luster. It was graded raw as a Fine. This was well before slabs were used.

    I’m going to be dreaming about that tonight, seeing it at a small show, and the dealer demanding full Fine Bid for it, and not a penny less.....

    But yes old school grading demanded a full horn for VF.
    Must’ve been tough for those guys with original ms 26D nickels only showing half horns, when they tried to sell them.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2020 7:16PM

    I think Buffalo Nickels were the 1st series to break away from the old Brown and Dunn Grading standards. Others call this grade inflation. While there is grade inflation...it's hard to negate some of the MM earlier Buffalo Nickels that were struck with worn out reverse dies and are fully lustrous Uncs! This has gone both ways(26-S's come to mind)...the reason I didn't guess the grade. The grade of this coin above VF all depends on the surfaces and luster IMHO which could not be determined from the pictures.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,642 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have give it a VF35, based on the horn. Shows ya what I know!

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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kind of surprised at the low grade, really thought it was closer to a weakly struck AU 50-53.

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In spite of the striking issues, in my opinion, the coin has only minimal wear.

  • stockdude_stockdude_ Posts: 510 ✭✭✭

    Obviously misgraded. Do you have any others for sale ? ;)

  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Huh ... I was in the 50ish camp before the slab scrolled up. Then I looked again. I think I'm still there.


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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,281 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My pre-reveal guess was 50, thought I could see enough luster for that grade.

  • NomaderNomader Posts: 149 ✭✭

    Since you mentioned guessing! Not what comes to mind at first! So, I'll say 58!

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