13th Large date 1982 find in 1 month
Kana808
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So I know this Is machine doubling......But since this is the 13th coin I found in this year plus as a large date. I was wondering is there a site or a form where the collectors are into these kind of coins. I thinking about posting them to Ebay as ungraded loose coins. I see there are a couple that have gone for up to $5. I thought why not make a couple pennies off a penny. lol 
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Better photos if you can.
Date and weight also would help.
@emeraldATV I dont have the best lighting for photos....
@emeraldATV Its a copper plated zinc coin. I wish it was a copper only coin. lol
Doubling seems consistant.
HMM.. give it a tilt and show the whole coin.
If unable to steady slide a tissue to hold the tilt stable.
Still need the obverse also.
Cool.
You are correct that its just common MD and has no numismatic premium. No coin collector with even half a brain would pay more than $.01 for it, but as P.T. Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute".
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@coinbuf yeah....there are those guys on eBay who are snatching them up for around 3 to the highest I seen was $13 . they always say its worth what ever someone wants to pay for it. lol
Good example of MD.
Mechanical doubling is not considered an error and they do not add any value to the coin. If you've done roll searching, you'll know how common MD and die deterioration doubling can be. Go to any established seller and see if they will purchase your MD or have examples for sale.
I strongly suspect that people who are buying these on ebay do not know/understand the difference between true doubling and MD. In addition, there are listings that knowingly or not, portray these coins to be true mint errors. Once again, if you check with any established coin seller, you'll understand that there is no collector demand and those buyers are going to be stuck with face value coins.
Hope this helps
@Oldhoopster has summed it up nicely....Mechanical (or machine) doubling is common and not considered an error. It is easily distinguishable from a true doubled die. If anyone is paying a premium for such coins, it is because they do not understand what it is and their investment is wasted. Cheers, RickO
OP will need to make an ethical decision here. To list or not to list, knowing that anyone who pays a premium is misinformed.
@Kana808 can honestly list it as "extensive MD large date" and that it is not a "double die coin". Start the bid at .99 cents and see where it goes. Some people do like coins with MD. Best of luck in your endeavor.
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The "Small Date" is the one you should be looking for! I come across a ton of 1982 Small dates. It's the ones that weigh 3.1 are the prize coins. Get yourself a cheap scale, I paid $15 for mine. It's well worth the money and time. Good Luck. Note; also check your 1983 Cents. If they weigh 3.1 too.
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Doubling is a very debatable and even subjective category. Wexler and Variety Vista take different approaches for example. VV provides extensive information on true Doubled Die coins including very minor and hard to see varieties. They allow collectors to determine value.
Wexler and the majority of grading services seem to only recognize major die doubling. Members here will often discount the minor variations.
Because of modern innovations, major die doubling has pretty much eliminated. If people are interested in collecting machine doubling then there is nothing wrong in selling such coins. I am sure that some purists consider die doubling something wrong to be considered an error by collectors.
I do not see how selling a penny for $3 on eBay is profitable. The time and effort spent makes it a net loss.
People are apparently also collecting die cracks, we see those discussed here.
In this sense, is collecting machine doubling or die cracks any different than toning?
It depends on how its represented, if the seller is honest and transparent about what is being sold without a bunch of hype then there is nothing wrong in a legal sense in selling MD coins. However if the seller represents MD as a double die or calls it MD but hypes it as rare or valuable, well then that moves into the realm of dishonesty and fraud.
People collect things for lots of reasons, some make sense to me but many do not. Its not up to me to say how someone collects, be on slab plastic, labels, MD examples or pet rocks. As long as the buyer knows what it is they are buying and are not being misinformed then have at it.
There is the second issue of what is moral or not, it would not fit within my moral compass to sell MD coins over face as they are not valuable and only worth face value. Look at it this way if your grandmother went on ebay, saw some MD coins and bought some to give to her coin collecting grandson would you be happy?
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I would save any major MD coins as curiosities, but they have no relation or comparison to DDs or die cracks.
@coinbuf I totally agree. I posted a newer dime here, I had never seen so much MD, had to makes sure what I was seeing. I was tempted to just list it as is and describe it properly. I eventually decided to just put it in my roll hunting change pile and put it through my banks coin machine.
Just a true statement about the scale...
For lots of definative answers a scale is a staple.
And not just this posting.
Keep your eye on the prize.
Just how does anyone actually "make money" on a $3 coin these days? I suspect sellers are not considering the full cost of selling their items.
WHAT WOULD AN 1982-D SMALL DATE COPPER GO FOR IF YOU FOUND ONE? I read somewhere that it was impossible based on when the small dates and coppers were created in Denver.
What's it worth?
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ oh, $$$$! That's how much. Lol
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--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.Love all the feed back everyone....well I check Ebays sell logs daily. I am like everyone else on the subject of selling MD coins. If listed as such and nothing other then MD. If someone is willing to buy then why not. what's the old saying one mans junk is another mans treasure.
but yes I keep all my 82's and 83's and check them all on a scale. I also on the look out for those nice 1999 wide AM's I currently have 7 of them so far in circulated condition. seen them going for $50 or so....Im waiting on that nice almost mint 99 to come my way. lol