When you have outgrown your regular coin safe.......

coinsarefun · May 13, 2020 6:23PM

This is the coolest door I’ve seen
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I was searching online for a fire door for my customers home and ran across this.
Walk in vault door. 36” wide x 80” tall. Maybe I’m behind times but last time I had to do something like this
I had to custom order it. Fireproof starting $6k
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https://youtu.be/WcaQ3-kcJ4w
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SoFlo · May 13, 2020 6:45PM

That would be great until someone shut the door and propped a chair against the handle while you were inside.

Another issue that I have with that design is that someone could drop down through the ceiling from the attic or kick through the drywall in an adjoining room unless, the walls and ceiling were reinforced with steel plate... of course that's not mentioned in the video.

bolivarshagnasty · May 13, 2020 6:58PM

The vid said it will clamshell around 8” wall thickness. I would want that wall to be poured and reinforced concrete. A block wall could be compromised with a 16 lb sledge hammer rather quickly. Why go through the door when you can go around it?

BTW, How have you been, Stef?

ms70 · May 13, 2020 7:10PM

That is very cool!

As long as all the walls are filled cinder block. I wonder how many people invest in something like that to come home and find a hole punched through the sheetrock!

It was always a dream of mine to have a "secret room" with a door like that.

topstuf · May 13, 2020 7:14PM

Get an impressive gun safe and keep your coins in the garage.

Barndog · May 13, 2020 8:01PM

@Mizzou said:
That would be great until someone shut the door and propped a chair against the handle while you were inside.

Another issue that I have with that design is that someone could drop down through the ceiling from the attic or kick through the drywall in an adjoining room unless of course, the walls and ceiling were reinforced with steel plate... of course that's not mentioned in the video.

steel plate is just the beginning. Reinforced concrete goes a long way too

ms70 · May 13, 2020 8:08PM

@Barndog said:

@Mizzou said:
That would be great until someone shut the door and propped a chair against the handle while you were inside.

Another issue that I have with that design is that someone could drop down through the ceiling from the attic or kick through the drywall in an adjoining room unless of course, the walls and ceiling were reinforced with steel plate... of course that's not mentioned in the video.

steel plate is just the beginning. Reinforced concrete goes a long way too

And if it's on the second floor you'd have to have a lot of reinforcement in load bearing walls under it. By the time you're done all the construction workers and all their friends will know you have this crazy safe room!

Barndog · May 13, 2020 8:09PM

@ms70 said:

@Barndog said:

@Mizzou said:
That would be great until someone shut the door and propped a chair against the handle while you were inside.

Another issue that I have with that design is that someone could drop down through the ceiling from the attic or kick through the drywall in an adjoining room unless of course, the walls and ceiling were reinforced with steel plate... of course that's not mentioned in the video.

steel plate is just the beginning. Reinforced concrete goes a long way too

And if it's on the second floor you'd have to have a lot of reinforcement in load bearing walls under it. By the time you're done all the construction workers and all their friends will know you have this crazy safe room!

never trust construction workers! Even if you are related to them.

ms70 · May 13, 2020 8:11PM

@Barndog said:

@ms70 said:

@Barndog said:

@Mizzou said:
That would be great until someone shut the door and propped a chair against the handle while you were inside.

Another issue that I have with that design is that someone could drop down through the ceiling from the attic or kick through the drywall in an adjoining room unless of course, the walls and ceiling were reinforced with steel plate... of course that's not mentioned in the video.

steel plate is just the beginning. Reinforced concrete goes a long way too

And if it's on the second floor you'd have to have a lot of reinforcement in load bearing walls under it. By the time you're done all the construction workers and all their friends will know you have this crazy safe room!

never trust construction workers! Even if you are related to them.

We'll be done in 2 weeks!

Jimnight · May 13, 2020 8:31PM

LOL ... my wife would probably lock me in.

ms70 · May 13, 2020 8:32PM

@Jimnight said:
LOL ... my wife would probably lock me in.

Me too. But that would make me happy.

sedulous · May 13, 2020 8:51PM

@topstuf said:
Get an impressive gun safe and keep your coins in the garage.

Humidity and Temperature delta swings? rather have a controlled environment for temps... especially copper.

WildIdea · May 13, 2020 8:52PM

Was walking the dog in adjacent neighborhood and checked out a new foundation going in. Definitely a concrete safe room going in. Probably pretty standard request now days.

sedulous · May 13, 2020 8:55PM

@ms70 @Barndog @Mizzou...
We'll be done in 2 weeks!

Wow, 2 weeks? that is the same answer I get whether 3 days or 3 months.

ms70 · May 13, 2020 9:04PM

@sedulous said:

@ms70 @Barndog @Mizzou...
We'll be done in 2 weeks!

Wow, 2 weeks? that is the same answer I get whether 3 days or 3 months.

Exactly my point!

291fifth · May 13, 2020 9:58PM

If you have to worry about safes it is probably time to start downsizing your collection in a big way.

Jimnight · May 14, 2020 2:29AM

@ms70 said:

@Jimnight said:
LOL ... my wife would probably lock me in.

Me too. But that would make me happy.

Me too

ricko · May 14, 2020 6:40AM

If done properly, a safe room (with all the amenities) is great - but expensive. Professional, layered security, can be very effective, along with planning and training. Much depends on individual needs - i.e. the size/value of possessions, need for security (profession - politics, entertainment etc.). Security is not a 'one size fits all' endeavor. For some, basic layers are sufficient, for others, a professional consultant/firm should be enlisted. Cheers, RickO

coinsarefun · May 14, 2020 8:38AM

Thanks for all you replies. I should have made myself clearer. It was meant as a general
light hearted, contractor thread. I was simply surprised that fire rated vault/panic room doors are pre made now.
The last one I did for a customer was years ago and had to have it custom made. I’m doing a panic room now for a customer in his house remodel and was relieved I can go online and simply order a pre made one.......
Still very good points brought up in the thread

Flatwoods · May 14, 2020 3:27PM

I had a Fort Knox vault door on a vault at one time.

Swampboy · May 14, 2020 5:19PM

..The lady standing there designed that vault door for the Smithsonian.
She let me grab this pic off her phone and told me that the door, as expensive as it was, was only a 'for show' door.

ms70 · May 14, 2020 5:22PM

Looks like a jet engine!

AUandAG · May 14, 2020 5:22PM

My ex boss, bought a vault door from one of the imploded casinos here in Vegas. He had a safe room built specifically for that door. I gave him a silver dollar to put in it when it was completed.

It was really ornate and cool looking, about 4' wide and 8' tall.

bob

ms70 · May 14, 2020 5:23PM

@coinsarefun said:
Thanks for all you replies. I should have made myself clearer. It was meant as a general
light hearted, contractor thread. I was simply surprised that fire rated vault/panic room doors are pre made now.
The last one I did for a customer was years ago and had to have it custom made. I’m doing a panic room now for a customer in his house remodel and was relieved I can go online and simply order a pre made one.......
Still very good points brought up in the thread

It's a very interesting topic for conversation! Thanks for posting the thread!

coinsarefun · May 14, 2020 6:08PM

Well, since its back to being light hearted. This started out as his master closet. Now it's going to be a safe room.
But........you didn't hear it from me Also, you didn't hear from me that there are some secret closet panels that actually open like a door into another room.....
btw, little did bit. clothes rods are led lights with occupancy sensors
Those are drawers below with no hardware. they are soft pull and push drawer glides.
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When you have outgrown your regular coin safe.......

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