What do you think this Cent will grade??
keets
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It's a Lincoln I've had for awhile that I haven't submitted because I keep forgetting I have it. The pictures are accurate, there aren't any hairlines, the contrast is pretty good with nice frost, that obverse carbon/black spot is stable, it hasn't changed since I bought it around 2009.
Al H.
What do you think this Cent will grade??
This is a public poll: others will see what you voted for.
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I should add that the glare and lint is because it's in a KoinTain.
The photos aren't good enough to grade off of, but I took a guess anyway.
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Is my guesstamate
I cannot venture a guess on a grade for this coin (since grading a proof coin from a photograph is an exercise in futility, as you have mentioned before).
However, I think the coin is gorgeous and think it would look great in a 1953 frosted proof set or in a set of proof Lincoln memorials. I would really like to see this coin in hand.
From the photo is appears that the fields of the coin are deeply mirrored and lacking in the light haze that so often develops on proof Lincolns. It also appears that the coin may have the usual frost break along Lincoln's jaw (this frost break is something which leads some to opine that the coin would not warrant a DCAM designation). The carbon spot is unfortunate, but it should not have any impact on whether the coin receives a CAM or a DCAM designation. The strength of the frost on the reverse devices looks very strong, the degree of frost on Lincoln's hair looks DCAM worthy (is that degree of frost present across all of the obverse devices?) and the fields look very deep.
So Keets, what is the back story on this cent? Did you purchase the cent as part of a 1953 proof set while looking for cherries? Or did you purchase the cent as a stand alone purchase?
Congrats on a great pickup.
The carbon spot should limit it to no more than 65 CAM.
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That carbon spot kills the coin. Too bad as the frosted devices are sweet.
Good eye and nice pickup.
I tend to not look at glares on proofs and sure enough missed the carbon spot. My bad.
Jim
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I have no idea how a spot like that on a PF would affect the grade. Without it 66CAM would be my guess. Unfortunately the great look of the coin makes the spot all the more problematic, IMO.
Sadly, in another 200 years, that spot will be twice its size.
I don't know what it will grade, but the grade might be secondary to that carbon spot.
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I like 65 cam
That darn spot. Geezo! Peace Roy
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Nice cent.... I think, based on the pictures (which seem to have a lot of glare), I would say 65CAM...it could be better...Cheers, RickO
Al said it was stable.
Pete
For the last 20 years. The next 200 years will be telling.
For the last 20 years. The next 200 years will be telling.
what my years of collecting have taught me is that the most important variable in a change in a coin's appearance is the storage/preservation. I have had coins which appeared unchanged after 20+years of storage in a stapled flip, still brilliant white. others with color that seemed stable after a similar time frame. I have seen slabbed coins from the early days of NGC/PCGS/ANACS which appear unchanged. the key factor is storage away from humidity and open air, time seems irrelevant.
at the same time, I have had coins with contaminants on their surfaces which changed in a matter of months, others which were poorly stored(open to the air/humidity) and changed in a relatively short time.
with this Cent, I see no reason why that spot should grow if a sound method of storage is maintained for however many years it is stored. actually, taking it out of the flip and removing it from the KoinTain may be the wrong thing to do. that would change the stability of its storage environment and could cause a change. as it is, why would you assume it will change if it has been stable for 10+ years??
I gave a vote of pr65 but would have given it a grade of pr64 if I could have
I don't like carbon spots and as stated prior, the glare is tuff and hinders a good view
I do hope that you have it graded so we can see how close we came to the right grade
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Great looking coin @Keets!
I voted 66 CAM before reading and seeing the reference to the carbon spot. Accordingly, I would reduce my vote to 65 CAM. The spot shouldn't have any impact on the CAM designation in my opinion. I'm not so brave as to take a guess of DCAM from the image, but my radar definitely pings as having a shot at DCAM.
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