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A nice article on forum member Owen Seymour

JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited May 6, 2020 1:27PM in U.S. Coin Forum

It’s great to see the Young Turks gain a foothold in our hobby. He was one of the first to gain traction on the Instagram “ platform”. Old hobby, new sales vehicle . A very impressive young man.

The importance of the mentoring process can’t be overstated.

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    OwenSeymour is a very impressive poster and has caught by attention several times.

    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great story.

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,864 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The future is in good hands. Thanks for sharing.

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    The importance of the mentoring process can’t be overstated.

    Amen!

    Numismatist Ordinaire
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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice!

  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice to see.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    to echo what Astrorat posted, shouldn't we be "mentoring" collectors and not making more dealers??

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    to echo what Astrorat posted, shouldn't we be "mentoring" collectors and not making more dealers??

    Both. On the dealer side innovation is sorely lacking plus younger fresher blood is needed. On the collector side softening and shortening the learning curve would strengthen the hobby and keep people around longer.

    mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @astrorat said:

    @astrorat said:

    @Justacommeman said:

    The importance of the mentoring process can’t be overstated.

    Amen!

    I'll go further ... the future of numismatics would benefit greatly from mentoring collectors and not just those who want to be dealers. Systematic mentoring of young collectors would be a 'game changer' (or whatever cliche you prefer). The ANA could leverage its YN program and create a network of mentors and mentees who would meet through technology and not be dependent on going to Colorado Springs or an ANA show.

    I’ve been on countless Zoom and NuOrder meetings since the quarantine stated. Even post lock down business will be forever changed. I will be traveling less and smarter for work. We will be relying less on sales meetings. Numismatic education via Zoom or like is a no brainer. I wish I was at a different point in my life or I would take this on myself

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    to echo what Astrorat posted, shouldn't we be "mentoring" collectors and not making more dealers??

    ...growing from collector to dealer is an important step for anyone with an entrepreneurs’ spirit...development like this can take a simple store clerk all the way to shop owner...progress is good and one can usually afford more this way in the end. Any collector who doesn’t understand the pain of selling their own coins, isn’t grasping the entire picture. Once a collector learns the ins and outs of selling their stuff it’s pretty easy to move forward with buying at wholesale and selling at retail. Pursue your passion and monies will flow freely is how I feel ;)

  • Owen1793Owen1793 Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    to echo what Astrorat posted, shouldn't we be "mentoring" collectors and not making more dealers??

    It's a shame that that is what you took away from the article.

  • Owen1793Owen1793 Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    @astrorat said:

    @astrorat said:

    @Justacommeman said:

    The importance of the mentoring process can’t be overstated.

    Amen!

    I'll go further ... the future of numismatics would benefit greatly from mentoring collectors and not just those who want to be dealers. Systematic mentoring of young collectors would be a 'game changer' (or whatever cliche you prefer). The ANA could leverage its YN program and create a network of mentors and mentees who would meet through technology and not be dependent on going to Colorado Springs or an ANA show.

    One cool thing about YNs being so active on social media is that it's really easy for them to reach out to more experienced dealers/collectors for advice/help. A YN might be intimidated to step up to a dealer at a show and ask some questions, but private messaging someone on social media is a lot less intimidating. I've literally answered thousands of questions from collectors on my instagram, I always try to help or at least point them in the direction of an individual or resource they could contact. It would be great if there was a established network of people willing to mentor others.

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,791 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think its fantastic, great article and accomplishment.

    I run a local small shop, in non collecting town, but its still fun. Years ago, when I visited other shops when I worked for a living, I thought how fun it would be to own a shop, and sit around an bs all day with customers.
    I often thought about closing the shop, and hitting the road looking for coins at different locations, but I'm tired and don't want to travel any longer as I used to work for dept of housing and spent many nights on the road.
    even though the shop Im at is still mostly junk, occasional bullion, it still can be fun at times.

  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great article. I've always enjoyed Owen's contributions on the forum and think it is really cool what he has accomplished at such a young age.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 6, 2020 6:36PM

    Most young dealers start off as young collectors.

    Congrats to Owen!

  • Downtown1974Downtown1974 Posts: 7,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great read! Thanks for sharing.

  • goldengolden Posts: 10,007 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the post.

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  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,810 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I saw that article, very nice. I'm far older than Owen, but I've found Instagram and other social media to be great avenues for the younger demographic as well as for the more adventurous old "farts", plus it's fun to look at what everyone collects, be it just stacking silver Eagles or collecting toned coins.

    In this lockdown phase, these avenues have proven to be pretty important to our hobby, especially in the absence of shows.

  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 938 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great article and sounds like Owen has the “ Right Stuff!”

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a shame that that is what you took away from the article.

    Owen, you don't have to go on the defensive about my post. I simply asked a question. and not only that, I echoed what another had stated just prior to my post. further, part of the reason that is the "take away" for me is because that is what the article states plainly. in a way, it is sort of a Primer for how to become a Coin Dealer from a young age by using internet platforms such as Instagram.

    if you spend much time at this site you'd understand that the bulk of the membership is concerned about the future of the Hobby due mainly to lower overall participation, especially from younger collectors. Mentoring is a fantastic tool and not just in Numismatics, my question is simply do we need to "mentor" on how to be a Coin Dealer or on how to be a better collector??

    there are plenty of members here who will praise you but stop short of any criticism, I'm just not one of them. congratulations on your endeavor and I wish you success. my question, though, is this --- when you'r holding yourself out as an example for others in your age group, is that as an example of how interesting this Hobby is, how rich it is in History and comaraderie and how can be a lifelong endeavor --- or --- are you holding yourself out as an example of how to make money??

    neither is bad or good, but if you can step away for a moment and re-read the OP you might understand my perspective. B)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great story and I wish Owen continued success. This is an amazing hobby that covers so many fields, - art, metallurgy, history, process details, varieties etc.. It is a hobby that allows continual learning....always something new. Not a week goes by that I do not learn something about 'coins' . Lending our knowledge (mentoring) is an important part of the hobby and the future. We need collectors and dealers. Cheers, RickO

  • Owen1793Owen1793 Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    1 > @keets said:

    It's a shame that that is what you took away from the article.

    Owen, you don't have to go on the defensive about my post. I simply asked a question. and not only that, I echoed what another had stated just prior to my post. further, part of the reason that is the "take away" for me is because that is what the article states plainly. in a way, it is sort of a Primer for how to become a Coin Dealer from a young age by using internet platforms such as Instagram.

    if you spend much time at this site you'd understand that the bulk of the membership is concerned about the future of the Hobby due mainly to lower overall participation, especially from younger collectors. Mentoring is a fantastic tool and not just in Numismatics, my question is simply do we need to "mentor" on how to be a Coin Dealer or on how to be a better collector??

    there are plenty of members here who will praise you but stop short of any criticism, I'm just not one of them. congratulations on your endeavor and I wish you success. my question, though, is this --- when you'r holding yourself out as an example for others in your age group, is that as an example of how interesting this Hobby is, how rich it is in History and comaraderie and how can be a lifelong endeavor --- or --- are you holding yourself out as an example of how to make money??

    neither is bad or good, but if you can step away for a moment and re-read the OP you might understand my perspective. B)

    In regards to your question I've written and presented information that relates to both. This article wasn't intended to be an example of how to make money. It was intended to serve as inspiration for other YNs who might be interested in buying & selling. Without a healthy network of future dealers the hobby would be doomed. I hope no one read the article and thought "wow I hate coins but I can make money if I just do this!". I was looking for more of a reaction where someone may realize that it IS possible for them to become professionally involved in their favorite hobby, and maybe even form a career that revolves around doing what they love. I've also written another RCMR article that focuses on the YN engagement and future of the hobby.

    I absolutely agree with you that a mentor is an incredibly important resource for a collector. Dealers should not be the only ones being mentored, and mentoring collectors is a great way to increase the likelihood that individuals will continue to participate in our hobby. I also think its important to note that a mentored dealer often passes the knowledge they've learned onto anyone willing to listen. Much of the knowledge that I received from my mentors has already been passed onto dozens or hundreds of collectors.

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome.

    Hard work pays off again.

    Instagram has been fantastic for me.

    Owen, what is your handle on Instagram?

  • Owen1793Owen1793 Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Awesome.

    Hard work pays off again.

    Instagram has been fantastic for me.

    Owen, what is your handle on Instagram?

    @PA_Coins, we have talked there before :smile:

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OwenSeymour said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Awesome.

    Hard work pays off again.

    Instagram has been fantastic for me.

    Owen, what is your handle on Instagram?

    @PA_Coins, we have talked there before :smile:

    Ok, yes indeed, I am following you :)

    Wow, you have 7,867 followers, that is fantastic. How long have you been on Instagram?

    I am at a little less than a year and am up to almost 1000.

    Instagram is such a great venue for coins as it is image based.

    Best of luck to you !

  • Owen1793Owen1793 Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:

    @OwenSeymour said:

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Awesome.

    Hard work pays off again.

    Instagram has been fantastic for me.

    Owen, what is your handle on Instagram?

    @PA_Coins, we have talked there before :smile:

    Ok, yes indeed, I am following you :)

    Wow, you have 7,867 followers, that is fantastic. How long have you been on Instagram?

    I am at a little less than a year and am up to almost 1000.

    Instagram is such a great venue for coins as it is image based.

    Best of luck to you !

    About five years. Nearly a thousand in under a year is fantastic. Thank you!

  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Owen, are you using Facebook in conjunction with Instagram or just Instagram as a stand-alone?

    I do not do Facebook as I do not like it.

    But, is Facebook a necessity, and should anyone with an Instagram business also do Facebook?

    I thank you for your insight.

  • Owen1793Owen1793 Posts: 368 ✭✭✭✭

    @ErrorsOnCoins said:
    Owen, are you using Facebook in conjunction with Instagram or just Instagram as a stand-alone?

    I do not do Facebook as I do not like it.

    But, is Facebook a necessity, and should anyone with an Instagram business also do Facebook?

    I thank you for your insight.

    I have a business Facebook page but honestly rarely use it, its posts aren't linked to my Instagram. I am however active in many numismatic facebook groups, my favorite being the Virtual Coin Show on Facebook which I reccomend to both buyers and sellers.

  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:

    I’ve been on countless Zoom and NuOrder meetings since the quarantine stated. Even post lock down business will be forever changed. I will be traveling less and smarter for work. We will be relying less on sales meetings. Numismatic education via Zoom or like is a no brainer. I wish I was at a different point in my life or I would take this on myself

    m

    I just had my high school reunion via Zoom!

    Why not a message board zoom meeting? Or webinar on collecting coins, sharing collections, grading, etc. Certainly seems like a way forward when there are no shows. Think about the educational displays that people put together and are likely enjoyed by a small fraction of people who might be interested. (I've really enjoyed when @BillJones recreates his displays here online.)

    Like MJ I think there could be a lot of potential here. Best part of shows are the people, making connections, learning.

    My current "Box of 20"

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