Central States win just arrived: 1901 MacNeil Pan American Exposition medal in gilt

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Weiss
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It's a short set: bronze, silver, gilt, since it seems unlikely I'll stumble across one of the actual solid gold medals (2 or 3 known). But I was happy to score the "gold" last week:

These medals were sculpted by Hermon Atkins MacNeil, the designer of the Standing Liberty quarter. Though records seem to indicate 3,193 medals were awarded across all three metals at the exhibition, very few seemed to have survived. It's been suggested that they were fodder for the Great Depression or the metal drives of the world wars. But the fact that so many of the Saint Gaudens / Barber bronze 1892 Columbian Exhibition medals of similar size and weight survive would seem to refute that. I dunno.

This gilt example was awarded to the Mobile Company of America, a short-lived iteration of the Stanley Steamer / Locomobile steam powered vehicle companies, who were sometimes partners, sometimes competitors.

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Mobile's listing in the Official Catalogue and Guide Book to the Pan-American Exposition:

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And here she is with the rest of the family...
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We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
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  • TomB
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    Nice! What an awesome trio to have been able to put together. It's really a cool group.

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    Really nice

  • mvs7
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    A beautifully-designed medal and an outstanding group... congrats on "completing" the set!

  • Eldorado9
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    You taught me something today. Never knew about these. Beautiful, and I would add that HA MacNeil was at the top of his craft.

  • PerryHall
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    Great looking set. B)
    Is "gilt" a form of gold plating or something else?

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  • jmlanzaf
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    @Weiss said:
    It's a short set: bronze, silver, gilt, since it seems unlikely I'll stumble across one of the actual solid gold medals (2 or 3 known). But I was happy to score the "gold" last week:

    These medals were sculpted by Hermon Atkins MacNeil, the designer of the Standing Liberty quarter. Though records seem to indicate 3,193 medals were awarded across all three metals at the exhibition, very few seemed to have survived. It's been suggested that they were fodder for the Great Depression or the metal drives of the world wars. But the fact that so many of the Saint Gaudens / Barber bronze 1892 Columbian Exhibition medals of similar size and weight survive would seem to refute that. I dunno.

    This gilt example was awarded to the Mobile Company of America, a short-lived iteration of the Stanley Steamer / Locomobile steam powered vehicle companies, who were sometimes partners, sometimes competitors.

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    Mobile's listing in the Official Catalogue and Guide Book to the Pan-American Exposition:

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    And here she is with the rest of the family...
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    One of my favorite medals. Congratulations

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  • kaz
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    I love that set! Congrats on the win.

  • NumisOxide
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    Beautiful medals!

  • MedalCollector
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    This is a great set! Was it gilt as issued or was it applied after the original issuance of the medal?

  • koynekwest
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    I'm happy with my one. A set of three would be amazing! Helluva job puttin' those together!

  • messydesk
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    Beautiful medal, beautiful set! Congrats!

  • 1946Hamm
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    Nice addition. Glad you got all three. I have the three also. I doubt if very many collectors have this set.

    Have a good day, Gary
  • PerryHall
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    How was the gilt applied? Did they gold plate the medal or apply gold leaf or is the process used unknown?

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  • dcarr
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    @Weiss said:

    This gilt example was awarded to the Mobile Company of America, a short-lived iteration of the Stanley Steamer / Locomobile steam powered vehicle companies, who were sometimes partners, sometimes competitors.

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    Mobile's listing in the Official Catalogue and Guide Book to the Pan-American Exposition:

    That is quite interesting.
    I think I have the sister medal to yours. Next time I have it home to look at it I will confirm (and photograph).
    As I remember, mine was awarded to (and inscribed with) "The American Locomobile Company".
    Or maybe it is "The Locomobile Company of America".
    Mine is also gilt.

  • Meltdown
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    Very nice set, congrats Weiss.

  • ricko
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    That is a truly beautiful set of medals @Weiss .... If a solid gold one does become available, I am sure it will quickly find it's way to your collection.... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • Weiss
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    @dcarr said:

    That is quite interesting.
    I think I have the sister medal to yours. Next time I have it home to look at it I will confirm (and photograph).
    As I remember, mine was awarded to (and inscribed with) "The American Locomobile Company".
    Or maybe it is "The Locomobile Company of America".
    Mine is also gilt.

    Dcarr, here's an advertisement from The Automobile that shows Locomobile's gold medal win at the expo:

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  • 1775
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    Great! Keep it going with beautiful Medals and Tokens/ Sure is a lot more interesting than a Morgan Dollar!

  • sparky64
    sparky64 Posts: 7,063 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My goodness that's beautiful.
    The artistry is moving.
    Congratulations.

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  • asheland
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    Super cool!

  • thebeav
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    Great set of medals,they're beautiful !
    Can you imagine what a near mint 'Locomobile' would sell for ?

  • koynekwest
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    Here's the number awarded for these beautiful medals-

    Original mintages for the Pan American medals is unknown, however, The St. Louis Republic newspaper from October 10, 1901, published a list of awards presented at the Exposition. There were
    887 gold medals,
    1,159 silver, and
    1,147 bronze presented.

  • Stella
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    These are great medals, and I love the look of your set together. Very cool!

    Coin collector since childhood and New York Numismatist at Heritage Auctions.
  • tokenpro
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    dcarr -- yes, the bronze edge mark and signature are found on most if not all of the gilt medals.

  • Samuel8
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    Very nice medals! I also begin to collect medals.

  • ricko
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    Glad to see this thread resurrected... though only a year old. That medal is truly beautiful... in all three metal renditions. And, as previously stated, rare to see such artistry on both sides. Cheers, RickO

  • Randall
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    Glad this just started up again. I just acquired another gilt gold medal for Edwin Howell, a famous turn of the century relief map maker. I’m in the process of getting it graded but as you can see by the photos it’s in very nice condition…


  • Weiss
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    Outstanding, @Randall !

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • thefinn
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    Beautiful medals and set. I hate to say it, but I think your bronze needs to be in a matching NGC slab.

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  • Weiss
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    @thefinn said:
    Beautiful medals and set. I hate to say it, but I think your bronze needs to be in a matching NGC slab.

    I hear you. If it wasn't in the original box, or if the box wasn't in such good shape, I'd have already submitted her. But I think I like having one of them raw.

    We are like children who look at print and see a serpent in the last letter but one, and a sword in the last.
    --Severian the Lame
  • Randall
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    @Weiss said:
    Outstanding, @Randall !

    Thank you. I have a medal certificate but this is the first opportunity I had to buy an actual medal and it’s so nice. The guy who sold it to me is a picker who found it in a storage unit at a storage auction. He’s got papers and certificates so I’ve asked if he could see if he’s got the accompanying certificate.

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    Interesting event today. Not only do I have the gold medal for E. E. Howell, I now have a 1900 Paris international exposition bronze medal with its box with his name on it as well. The picker found it in his storage locker he bought. This makes 4 medals (1898 bronze medal, 1900 bronze medal, 1901 Gold medal, and the 1904 Grand prize medal) from this locker so I have to think the other 2 were Howell’s as well. Plus he found an Additional medal box with Howell’s name on it from the 1915 Panama-pacific international expo in San Francisco. I’m hoping he finds that medal as well.



  • kaz
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    Great stuff!

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