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Late Night GTG, Double Dime Style. **Update, ANACS grade revealed, PCGS grade revealed**

relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,328 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 24, 2020 9:28AM in U.S. Coin Forum

Just got off work. Thoughts to the PCGS grade and ANACS photo certificate grade of this crusty 20 center . The range should be interesting.

Hint, I have the coin in hand and agree with the PCGS grade.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 23, 2020 5:45AM

    Great looking coin. 35 maybe?

    EDIT: The coin seems to have the luster of a 45, so I'll compromise on 40.

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    1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll guess high 35 low 40. I like the color.

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    TurtleCatTurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree on the 35 to 40 grade.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40

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    SmudgeSmudge Posts: 10,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40-45.

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    KliaoKliao Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭✭✭

    40

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess 35....fair amount of obverse wear... Cheers, RickO

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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF40

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    LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    Looks 40 to me, also.

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    ColoradoCoinGuyColoradoCoinGuy Posts: 265 ✭✭✭

    XF40

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    Tom147Tom147 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF40

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 24,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,309 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see some luster? I'm going XF45.

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    android01android01 Posts: 306 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF40

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    goldengolden Posts: 10,565 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 12,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm going to guess that the old ANACs grade was LOWER than the PCGS grade, and that the PCGS grade is XF40.
    I believe standards have loosened up quite a bit on these over the years.

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ANACS photo certificate grade = VF-30
    PCGS grade = EF-45
    My grade = EF-40

    What a nice double dime!

    During the photo certificate years, ANACS grading seemed to focus quite heavily on LIBERTY as the key indicator and ignored that often, LIBERTY is weak on double dimes (especially from the Carson City Mint).

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    1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Did we win? :)

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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Update in OP.

    Need a Barber Half with ANACS photo certificate. If you have one for sale please PM me. Current Ebay auctions
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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 13,298 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really nice looking Twenty-center! XF45 seems right to me...I have been wrong before.

    My post never made it, but I am sticking with what I responded above.

    I see the ANACS certificate in the OP...what did our host say?

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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PCGS grade revealed in OP

    Need a Barber Half with ANACS photo certificate. If you have one for sale please PM me. Current Ebay auctions
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd have guessed XF45, knowing it might be a technical XF40 with luster. So pleasing a coin that it deserves a bump from whatever technical grade it might be. I can buy the PCGS AU50 if the luster is significant.

    The best ANACs paper "upgrade" I've seen was on a capped bust $5 gold piece. 1812 or 1813 iirc. Was graded VF with planchet flaw in the 1980's. Re-graded at PCGS around 10-15 yrs ago as PCGS MS62. Full luster coin with eye appeal....and a ripple along the cheek. Fabulous looking coin...and correctly graded as 62. Would have grade 63 or better w/o the flaw. But a VF back in the 1980s????

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