1867-S $20 Liberty Head

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Hector913
Hector913 Posts: 24 ✭
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Curious what this 1867-S Liberty Head could grade out at?

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  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    XF45

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  • Hector913
    Hector913 Posts: 24 ✭
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    I heard it might grade higher..... either upper AU or lower MS. Def cool coin either way

  • jclovescoins
    jclovescoins Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks damaged to me, but think we need better pictures. I’d say XF details

  • Hector913
    Hector913 Posts: 24 ✭
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    Thanks & Yes I will try to get better photos. Not damaged I couldn't see how the coin of this low mintage / known remaining total supply wouldn't have pretty high value. I've seen MS-63's newer coins than this look even worse than this coin does. Probably needs better photo

  • Kliao
    Kliao Posts: 5,802 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks to already be in a PCGS holder?

    I say XF also

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  • Hector913
    Hector913 Posts: 24 ✭
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    It was sitting in a broken case when I saw the photo

  • Outhaul
    Outhaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Hector913 said:
    I heard it might grade higher..... either upper AU or lower MS. Def cool coin either way

    Nope, not a chance. The dig at the nose, the ding on the obverse rim at 10:00 will make it a details coin and the wear would make it XF at best. It will not straight grade. The only benefit to submitting it is for authenticity.

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  • PerryHall
    PerryHall Posts: 47,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Kliao said:
    Looks to already be in a PCGS holder?

    Is it in a PCGS slab? What does the slab label say?

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  • Jimnight
    Jimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 22, 2020 7:51AM
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    XF40

  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's hard to judge from the picture...I think if the luster is there it has enough meat to make an AU grade..probably 50-53.

  • Smudge
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    edited April 22, 2020 8:19AM
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    @Hector913 said:
    It was sitting in a broken case when I saw the photo

    The case may have been broken for a reason. I see a low AU that may detail. Edit, the color if accurate in the photo looks nice.

  • metalmeister
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  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Details coin. PASS!

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  • coinbuf
    coinbuf Posts: 12,573 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Details coin is my grade guess

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  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like you need to shop for coins elsewhere.

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  • JRocco
    JRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    There is a lot of chatter going on with this coin.
    Rim ding is in a bad spot also.

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • Hector913
    Hector913 Posts: 24 ✭
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    I think due to the scarcity of this particular coin only around 2,000 known to exist left in the world get it authenticated & whatever it comes back at we'll take it!

  • logger7
    logger7 Posts: 9,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Tough year/mm to find with any eye appeal. That is a problem coin and will not straight grade.

  • ironmanl63
    ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The coin was in a holder. What did it say?

  • REALGATOR
    REALGATOR Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Typical stuff: XF40 obverse, AU50 reverse. Don't like the rim bump.

  • Timbuk3
    Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    XF-40 !!!
    Good luck !!! :)

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That will be a details coin... Rim ding and gouge at mouth/nose on obverse... a lot of chatter in fields and devices....Cheers, RickO

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