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1867-S $20 Liberty Head

Curious what this 1867-S Liberty Head could grade out at?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF45

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  • I heard it might grade higher..... either upper AU or lower MS. Def cool coin either way

  • jclovescoinsjclovescoins Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks damaged to me, but think we need better pictures. I’d say XF details

  • Thanks & Yes I will try to get better photos. Not damaged I couldn't see how the coin of this low mintage / known remaining total supply wouldn't have pretty high value. I've seen MS-63's newer coins than this look even worse than this coin does. Probably needs better photo

  • KliaoKliao Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks to already be in a PCGS holder?

    I say XF also

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  • It was sitting in a broken case when I saw the photo

  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hector913 said:
    I heard it might grade higher..... either upper AU or lower MS. Def cool coin either way

    Nope, not a chance. The dig at the nose, the ding on the obverse rim at 10:00 will make it a details coin and the wear would make it XF at best. It will not straight grade. The only benefit to submitting it is for authenticity.

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    Bob

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,132 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Kliao said:
    Looks to already be in a PCGS holder?

    Is it in a PCGS slab? What does the slab label say?

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 22, 2020 6:51AM

    XF40

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's hard to judge from the picture...I think if the luster is there it has enough meat to make an AU grade..probably 50-53.

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,523 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 22, 2020 7:19AM

    @Hector913 said:
    It was sitting in a broken case when I saw the photo

    The case may have been broken for a reason. I see a low AU that may detail. Edit, the color if accurate in the photo looks nice.

  • metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stage coach strong box ride EF40

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Details coin. PASS!

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Details coin is my grade guess

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like you need to shop for coins elsewhere.

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is a lot of chatter going on with this coin.
    Rim ding is in a bad spot also.

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • I think due to the scarcity of this particular coin only around 2,000 known to exist left in the world get it authenticated & whatever it comes back at we'll take it!

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tough year/mm to find with any eye appeal. That is a problem coin and will not straight grade.

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin was in a holder. What did it say?

  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Typical stuff: XF40 obverse, AU50 reverse. Don't like the rim bump.

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF-40 !!!
    Good luck !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That will be a details coin... Rim ding and gouge at mouth/nose on obverse... a lot of chatter in fields and devices....Cheers, RickO

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