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Got the 1921 in the mail, Don’t worry I already knew about the dark spot when I bough the coin.

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    ShipwreckCoinHunterShipwreckCoinHunter Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2020 8:28PM

    @Coinjunkie I guess I have some coins I find attractive that others don’t. I did bring the coin to be looked at by a coin dealer at a coin show who was selling other Indian cent proofs and he said it is a nice attractive coin.

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 13, 2020 8:36PM

    @markelman1125 said:
    @Coinjunkie I guess I have some coins I find attractive that others don’t. I did bring the coin to be looked at by a coin dealer at a coin show who was selling other Indian cent proofs and he said it is a nice attractive coin.

    I'm sure there are other folks who would find that IHC attractive. Aesthetics are subjective, after all. As others have pointed out, it's when you go to sell that you'll find out how many others share your opinion of a particular coin. It's really not in a dealer's best interest to bad-mouth any coin that a potential customer shows him/her. When the dealer asks "Is it for sale?", that's a true compliment. ;)

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    ShipwreckCoinHunterShipwreckCoinHunter Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie you do have a vary good point. I did though have a dealer at the show say my 1804 XF 45 half cent is unattractive and he would not buy. So some dealers are honest 👍 I guess though you are talking about the majority.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep the coin and enjoy it.... OR - Send it to me, and I will treat it with loving kindness and it will have a forever home... ;) Cheers, RickO

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 7,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I still think the coin is OK. Yeah you might have a hard time selling it but that's not why you bought it.
    I wouldn't return it if you like it. You did see the spots when buying so I don't think it would really be a valid reason and might label you as one of "those buyers".
    If you are inclined, once PCGS opens back up you can contact them and see if anything can be done since it changed in the holder. This looks like one of the new generation that's supposed to be sealed.
    You could also probably ask @PCGSPhoto if there are other trueviews that show the spots just to be sure it did change after encapsulating.

    Collector, occasional seller

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    If you are inclined, once PCGS opens back up you can contact them and see if anything can be done since it changed in the holder. This looks like one of the new generation that's supposed to be sealed.
    You could also probably ask @PCGSPhoto if there are other trueviews that show the spots just to be sure it did change after encapsulating.

    The PCGS guarantee no longer covers coins that degrade in their holders.
    Lance.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    If you got that coin at a good AU price, I'd keep it. All the discoloration will come off.

    @amwldcoin said:
    Really? I have been playing with coins for almost … if not as long as you have. There is no way you can get rid of that spot on the Y. You might lighten it a bit... but if you go for removal you will destroy the coin!

    Really. Do you get paid for your work? The difference may be that I started NCS in a sink room in our building. Additionally, there are folks around - the great "coin doctors" in numismatics that know much more than I will ever know so you and I playing with coins for a very long time don't count for much. :(

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @roadrunner said:

    @Insider2 said:
    If you got that coin at a good AU price, I'd keep it. All the discoloration will come off.

    Yeah, keep on conserving the coin every time the spots come back. That's a great long term strategy.
    Looks like those spots might have come back just since the last "conservation" and/or dipping.

    Some spots come back and some do not. Depends on the spot and haw it was made or removed.

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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unless the picture is deceiving, that is a serious burn on that coin. While I may not be 100%...I bet it's etched the surface...at least that has been my experience when trying to deal with a spot like that. I also bet it was there to some degree when the coin was graded.

    @Insider2 said:

    @Insider2 said:
    If you got that coin at a good AU price, I'd keep it. All the discoloration will come off.

    @amwldcoin said:
    Really? I have been playing with coins for almost … if not as long as you have. There is no way you can get rid of that spot on the Y. You might lighten it a bit... but if you go for removal you will destroy the coin!

    Really. Do you get paid for your work? The difference may be that I started NCS in a sink room in our building. Additionally, there are folks around - the great "coin doctors" in numismatics that know much more than I will ever know so you and I playing with coins for a very long time don't count for much. :(

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @amwldcoin said:
    Unless the picture is deceiving, that is a serious burn on that coin. While I may not be 100%...I bet it's etched the surface...at least that has been my experience when trying to deal with a spot like that. I also bet it was there to some degree when the coin was graded.

    Correct. You can see the genesis of the spots and streaks on the TrueView.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have commented enough in this thread. Fortunately, I deal at a different level of magnification than the majority of CU members. Mr. Feld has described it this way: "fantasy..."

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    MFeldMFeld Posts: 17,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 14, 2020 2:38PM

    @Insider2 said:
    I have commented enough in this thread. Fortunately, I deal at a different level of magnification than the majority of CU members. Mr. Feld has described it this way: "fantasy..."

    Talk about quoting a single word without providing proper (or, for that matter, any)
    context! I have copied our exchange below.

    @Insider2 said:

    » show previous quotes
    You are correct. Best to buy the best you can rather than try to restore something. Yet in a last gasp effort....

    If a major "player" dipped it for free and sent it in and lucked out with a MS 63 or 64 grade would that combination of fantasy occurrences possibly break even?

    My reply:
    Key words - “fantasy occurrences”.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @Insider2 said:
    I have commented enough in this thread. Fortunately, I deal at a different level of magnification than the majority of CU members. Mr. Feld has described it this way: "fantasy..."

    Talk about quoting a single word without providing proper (or, for that matter, any)
    context! I have copied our exchange below.

    @Insider2 said:

    » show previous quotes
    You are correct. Best to buy the best you can rather than try to restore something. Yet in a last gasp effort....

    If a major "player" dipped it for free and sent it in and lucked out with a MS 63 or 64 grade would that combination of fantasy occurrences possibly break even?

    My reply:
    Key words - “fantasy occurrences”.

    In the opinion of a few folks Removing SOME spots from coins is

    ALSO

    a "fantasy...[occurrance]." :)

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    stockdude_stockdude_ Posts: 555 ✭✭✭✭

    Id rather have a well struck coin like yours with a spot than a weakly struck coin that has no spots. People seem to almost ignore strike

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    CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stockdude_ said:
    Id rather have a well struck coin like yours with a spot than a weakly struck coin that has no spots. People seem to almost ignore strike

    I'd rather have a well struck coin with no spots. :)

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    stockdude_stockdude_ Posts: 555 ✭✭✭✭

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @stockdude_ said:
    Id rather have a well struck coin like yours with a spot than a weakly struck coin that has no spots. People seem to almost ignore strike

    I'd rather have a well struck coin with no spots. :)

    Of course but then what would we discuss ;)

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stockdude_ said:

    @CoinJunkie said:

    @stockdude_ said:
    Id rather have a well struck coin like yours with a spot than a weakly struck coin that has no spots. People seem to almost ignore strike

    I'd rather have a well struck coin with no spots. :)

    Of course but then what would we discuss ;)

    Politics? >:)

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