@Coinjunkie I guess I have some coins I find attractive that others don’t. I did bring the coin to be looked at by a coin dealer at a coin show who was selling other Indian cent proofs and he said it is a nice attractive coin.
@markelman1125 said: @Coinjunkie I guess I have some coins I find attractive that others don’t. I did bring the coin to be looked at by a coin dealer at a coin show who was selling other Indian cent proofs and he said it is a nice attractive coin.
I'm sure there are other folks who would find that IHC attractive. Aesthetics are subjective, after all. As others have pointed out, it's when you go to sell that you'll find out how many others share your opinion of a particular coin. It's really not in a dealer's best interest to bad-mouth any coin that a potential customer shows him/her. When the dealer asks "Is it for sale?", that's a true compliment.
@CoinJunkie you do have a vary good point. I did though have a dealer at the show say my 1804 XF 45 half cent is unattractive and he would not buy. So some dealers are honest 👍 I guess though you are talking about the majority.
I have to chime in on this one. You saw the pictures before hand, you made an informed decision to buy the coin. It came in and you like it. Others seem to just be looking at it's future potential sale price.
I have to admit that I am funny (or used to be funny since I don't buy many coins any longer) but when I liked a coin for sale, looked over the pictures and liked them, purchased the coin and got in hand and liked it, it really didn't matter if other people liked it or not. I was/am in this to please myself. I also, having made what I consider an informed buying decision, and liking the coin when I had it in hand, would never send it back. Second thoughts and second guessing are not in my coin buying vocabulary. I am brutally honest with myself when I buy something that I've inspected and like in hand to and I have never sent a coin back based on other peoples impressions of the coin.
You should stop beating a dead horse. People are going to continue to say send it back, you are going to continue to defend your decision and vow to keep the coin. Let it go. Add it to your collection and enjoy it and stop letting other people try to bully you in to sending it back.
I still think the coin is OK. Yeah you might have a hard time selling it but that's not why you bought it.
I wouldn't return it if you like it. You did see the spots when buying so I don't think it would really be a valid reason and might label you as one of "those buyers".
If you are inclined, once PCGS opens back up you can contact them and see if anything can be done since it changed in the holder. This looks like one of the new generation that's supposed to be sealed.
You could also probably ask @PCGSPhoto if there are other trueviews that show the spots just to be sure it did change after encapsulating.
@ChrisH821 said:
If you are inclined, once PCGS opens back up you can contact them and see if anything can be done since it changed in the holder. This looks like one of the new generation that's supposed to be sealed.
You could also probably ask @PCGSPhoto if there are other trueviews that show the spots just to be sure it did change after encapsulating.
The PCGS guarantee no longer covers coins that degrade in their holders.
Lance.
@Insider2 said:
If you got that coin at a good AU price, I'd keep it. All the discoloration will come off.
@amwldcoin said: Really? I have been playing with coins for almost … if not as long as you have. There is no way you can get rid of that spot on the Y. You might lighten it a bit... but if you go for removal you will destroy the coin!
Really. Do you get paid for your work? The difference may be that I started NCS in a sink room in our building. Additionally, there are folks around - the great "coin doctors" in numismatics that know much more than I will ever know so you and I playing with coins for a very long time don't count for much.
@Insider2 said:
If you got that coin at a good AU price, I'd keep it. All the discoloration will come off.
Yeah, keep on conserving the coin every time the spots come back. That's a great long term strategy.
Looks like those spots might have come back just since the last "conservation" and/or dipping.
Some spots come back and some do not. Depends on the spot and haw it was made or removed.
Unless the picture is deceiving, that is a serious burn on that coin. While I may not be 100%...I bet it's etched the surface...at least that has been my experience when trying to deal with a spot like that. I also bet it was there to some degree when the coin was graded.
@Insider2 said:
If you got that coin at a good AU price, I'd keep it. All the discoloration will come off.
@amwldcoin said: Really? I have been playing with coins for almost … if not as long as you have. There is no way you can get rid of that spot on the Y. You might lighten it a bit... but if you go for removal you will destroy the coin!
Really. Do you get paid for your work? The difference may be that I started NCS in a sink room in our building. Additionally, there are folks around - the great "coin doctors" in numismatics that know much more than I will ever know so you and I playing with coins for a very long time don't count for much.
@amwldcoin said:
Unless the picture is deceiving, that is a serious burn on that coin. While I may not be 100%...I bet it's etched the surface...at least that has been my experience when trying to deal with a spot like that. I also bet it was there to some degree when the coin was graded.
Correct. You can see the genesis of the spots and streaks on the TrueView.
I have commented enough in this thread. Fortunately, I deal at a different level of magnification than the majority of CU members. Mr. Feld has described it this way: "fantasy..."
@Insider2 said:
I have commented enough in this thread. Fortunately, I deal at a different level of magnification than the majority of CU members. Mr. Feld has described it this way: "fantasy..."
Talk about quoting a single word without providing proper (or, for that matter, any)
context! I have copied our exchange below.
» show previous quotes
You are correct. Best to buy the best you can rather than try to restore something. Yet in a last gasp effort....
If a major "player" dipped it for free and sent it in and lucked out with a MS 63 or 64 grade would that combination of fantasy occurrences possibly break even?
My reply:
Key words - “fantasy occurrences”.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Insider2 said:
I have commented enough in this thread. Fortunately, I deal at a different level of magnification than the majority of CU members. Mr. Feld has described it this way: "fantasy..."
Talk about quoting a single word without providing proper (or, for that matter, any)
context! I have copied our exchange below.
» show previous quotes
You are correct. Best to buy the best you can rather than try to restore something. Yet in a last gasp effort....
If a major "player" dipped it for free and sent it in and lucked out with a MS 63 or 64 grade would that combination of fantasy occurrences possibly break even?
My reply:
Key words - “fantasy occurrences”.
In the opinion of a few folks Removing SOME spots from coins is
@stockdude_ said:
Id rather have a well struck coin like yours with a spot than a weakly struck coin that has no spots. People seem to almost ignore strike
@stockdude_ said:
Id rather have a well struck coin like yours with a spot than a weakly struck coin that has no spots. People seem to almost ignore strike
@stockdude_ said:
Id rather have a well struck coin like yours with a spot than a weakly struck coin that has no spots. People seem to almost ignore strike
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@Coinjunkie I guess I have some coins I find attractive that others don’t. I did bring the coin to be looked at by a coin dealer at a coin show who was selling other Indian cent proofs and he said it is a nice attractive coin.
I'm sure there are other folks who would find that IHC attractive. Aesthetics are subjective, after all. As others have pointed out, it's when you go to sell that you'll find out how many others share your opinion of a particular coin. It's really not in a dealer's best interest to bad-mouth any coin that a potential customer shows him/her. When the dealer asks "Is it for sale?", that's a true compliment.
@CoinJunkie you do have a vary good point. I did though have a dealer at the show say my 1804 XF 45 half cent is unattractive and he would not buy. So some dealers are honest 👍 I guess though you are talking about the majority.
I have to chime in on this one. You saw the pictures before hand, you made an informed decision to buy the coin. It came in and you like it. Others seem to just be looking at it's future potential sale price.
I have to admit that I am funny (or used to be funny since I don't buy many coins any longer) but when I liked a coin for sale, looked over the pictures and liked them, purchased the coin and got in hand and liked it, it really didn't matter if other people liked it or not. I was/am in this to please myself. I also, having made what I consider an informed buying decision, and liking the coin when I had it in hand, would never send it back. Second thoughts and second guessing are not in my coin buying vocabulary. I am brutally honest with myself when I buy something that I've inspected and like in hand to and I have never sent a coin back based on other peoples impressions of the coin.
You should stop beating a dead horse. People are going to continue to say send it back, you are going to continue to defend your decision and vow to keep the coin. Let it go. Add it to your collection and enjoy it and stop letting other people try to bully you in to sending it back.
@markelman1125 You don't have to defend yourself for liking and purchasing the coin.
All that matters is that you like it. Everything else is just verbal cannon fodder.
Pete
Keep the coin and enjoy it.... OR - Send it to me, and I will treat it with loving kindness and it will have a forever home...
Cheers, RickO
I still think the coin is OK. Yeah you might have a hard time selling it but that's not why you bought it.
I wouldn't return it if you like it. You did see the spots when buying so I don't think it would really be a valid reason and might label you as one of "those buyers".
If you are inclined, once PCGS opens back up you can contact them and see if anything can be done since it changed in the holder. This looks like one of the new generation that's supposed to be sealed.
You could also probably ask @PCGSPhoto if there are other trueviews that show the spots just to be sure it did change after encapsulating.
Collector, occasional seller
The PCGS guarantee no longer covers coins that degrade in their holders.
Lance.
Really. Do you get paid for your work? The difference may be that I started NCS in a sink room in our building. Additionally, there are folks around - the great "coin doctors" in numismatics that know much more than I will ever know so you and I playing with coins for a very long time don't count for much.
Some spots come back and some do not. Depends on the spot and haw it was made or removed.
Unless the picture is deceiving, that is a serious burn on that coin. While I may not be 100%...I bet it's etched the surface...at least that has been my experience when trying to deal with a spot like that. I also bet it was there to some degree when the coin was graded.
Correct. You can see the genesis of the spots and streaks on the TrueView.
I have commented enough in this thread. Fortunately, I deal at a different level of magnification than the majority of CU members. Mr. Feld has described it this way: "fantasy..."
Talk about quoting a single word without providing proper (or, for that matter, any)
context! I have copied our exchange below.
@Insider2 said:
» show previous quotes
You are correct. Best to buy the best you can rather than try to restore something. Yet in a last gasp effort....
If a major "player" dipped it for free and sent it in and lucked out with a MS 63 or 64 grade would that combination of fantasy occurrences possibly break even?
My reply:
Key words - “fantasy occurrences”.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
In the opinion of a few folks Removing SOME spots from coins is
ALSO
a "fantasy...[occurrance]."
Id rather have a well struck coin like yours with a spot than a weakly struck coin that has no spots. People seem to almost ignore strike
I'd rather have a well struck coin with no spots.
Of course but then what would we discuss
Politics?