True View and Gold Shield-Do they factor in your purchase decision?
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In the beginnings of my collection, I have noticed that I am much more pleased if the coin comes with a True View. The coin still must be priced right and be appealing to me but I look at this as a real bonus. One reason is that I participate in the Registry. I like to see the True View populate in my listing. Plus, it is very easy to use the image if you are creating a Digital album. Since I am camera challenged it alway helps to have a great, clear image. I know this sounds like a commercial but how do others feel?
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Agree totally. It saves me $20.
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I do appreciate the added value of having the image. The images have, and continue to help guide my online auction purchase decisions. A picture’s worth a thousand words
Neither contributes to my decision when buying a coin.... They are, however, 'icing on the cake'....A few times I have found out much later that there was a TruView on coins I have purchased....Yippee....but would not have affected my initial decision... just as 'no TruView' would not make me pass on a coin. Cheers, RickO
Doesn't affect me in the least bit, most of my coins were purchased before this was available so all of those coins I have had photos taken or taken photos myself. And the OCD side of me like continuity so new coins that have a TV look out of place with my other photos.
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Nice to have, but not having a TV would not be a deal kill. The coin rules.
No, and I have purchased some coins accompanied by no photos, just the dealer's recommendation that I buy it (based on his knowledge of my tastes).
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Icing on the cake if it has it.
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This absolutely factors into my decision, although the extent depends on what I'm buying.
For my primary Registry type set, I have a decent budget per coin and am extremely picky — while the TV may help me make a purchasing decision, I'm much more interested in the coin itself. I plan to get the TrueViews later for a relatively small percentage of the coin value.
For my silver Washington Quarter toner set, however, the TrueView is a significant primary factor. My per coin budget is significantly lower, as I'm happy to snag coins in the $20-$40 range. It would be cost prohibitive to pay for all these to be sent to PCGS, so when I come across a TrueView'd example I am aggressive.
Nothing is as expensive as free money.
Not generally but it does help me if I’m evaluating an eBay purchase. I can see another view of the coin (generally). It saves me a step on photographing the coin myself. I’m not sure what benefit there is otherwise.
TrueView has affected my decision to purchase a coin, and the price I bid. Gold Shield hasn't.
If I like the coin and need it I buy it. A Trueview is a bonus.
I think TVs can be deceptive to the in hand look. So, my answer is no.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
I like when it happens but it does not influence my decisions.
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It helps me along with images taken by the seller to get a better feel for what it would look like in hand. It's also nice from a photographic standpoint to have a target, so to speak, to see if I can match or improve upon for my images. In several cases, I've purchased as the seller images were too ambiguous on the quality of the overall look.
Nothing beats having the coin in hand, but with so much online commerce, this is a plus.
It's nice when a coin under consideration already has a TrueView, particularly if the seller's images are less than excellent (which they often are). Since I tend to get TrueViews on most of my keeper coins, it also saves me the hassle of sending them back in to PCGS. That said, lack of a TV is by no means a deal-breaker if I like the coin.
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It's unlikely you're going to sell me a $2500+ saint w/o TrueView.
A lot of dealers push old plastic & stickers...PASS
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It is generally very helpful especially when the photos of the coin from the seller are sub-standard and the Trueview is not show. Seeing the Trueview can push me from "what does this coin even look like", into "Hell yes"!
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Many photos can be deceptive.
I like it when TRs and non-TV photos are both included.
A few of my best buys are when a TrueView is available but not mentioned in the listing.
I will ONLY buy a coin if it has a trueview. Occassionally I will consider a coin without a trueview, if it is exactly what I want, if I can see it in hand first, and if the price is $100 lower than "normal" so I can send it in for a reholder with a trueview!
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No. Same as when I buy a coin with a CAC sticker. I think it's nice. But it doesn't enter into my decision to buy it. It's all good. Happy Easter my friends.
No and No.
My sentiments exactly. Nice to have but not a deal breaker if it doesn't have it.
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I feel like true view is great for cataloging coins in digital format and it makes it easier when selling coins online. I personally have been adding gold shield to all of my submissions in the past two years.
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Not a deal breaker but for what I collect it’s certainly a plus. My Franklin gems generally run under $150 each, MAX. My early commems run under, say, $500 usually. So in the Franklins case it’s a huge bonus. In the commems case a small bonus. I figure the original submitter prob has at least $20 into getting that coin in that holder. So I’ll add a little to what my max purchase price would be.
Often I can get what I want for LESS than sheet, in a GS w/TV. That’s a super win win in my mind.
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loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
No. I find TrueViews are often highly saturated images that were taken under a very particular lighting situation that I'll never reproduce in real life. I prefer average lighting in-the-slab photos for purchase decisions.
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Duh, of course. I have a preference for more accuracy, less drama.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
Neither represent added value to me.
All great responses. Thanks for the information. I have also noticed that many top sets in the Registry, seem to have a high percentage of True Views and I wondered if they just resubmit to keep better organization of their collection. It does create a “sameness” to help with your presentation of your sets.
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It's a nice bonus. And you should always check because sometimes there is a TV when not in a shield holder.
One of these years I'll have to buy a TV or Gold Shield coin. Until then....it doesn't affect my decision.
You don't have a single coin with a TrueView?
Nope, except that having a TrueView is another data point if it's a purchase I'm considering. Once I have the coin, I prefer my own photos. The gold shield is something I hardly notice.
It certainly does not hurt. Sellers images can look great on the screen, but can be juiced and misleading. TrueViews are a definite plus! When I send in coins for attribution / reholdering, I always opt for the TrueViews.
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Same. I like a TV before I buy. Usually better than seller photos. Once it's mine the TV is unimportant.
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I've also noticed that once TrueViews are available, they seem to be the main photos shared here.
Convenience and form factor probably contribute to that.
When I see a Gold Shield coin I assume that the coin is maxed out grade wise, or in any case, it will most likely never get upgraded at PCGS even if it should have decent shot, so I consider it a negative. The TrueView incentive for those is not enough to get me to bite.
I almost always get TrueViews when I send coins in to be graded, as non Gold Shield, and pay the extra $. When buying I consider it a bonus and usually try to check the cert number just to see if it has one. Generally if a coin has a TrueView I will add a few extra bucks in my mental calculation when I am determining what I am willing to pay. They are fun photos to share and show off, but often times the coin is not as attractive in hand.
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True View does not affect acquisition decision. I submit coins for reholder/TrueView. Like you, I like the presentation aspects of the TV in the registry. The maximum size jpeg files are quite nice.
Many coins in top registry sets have been through the upgrade/regrade mill a bunch of times. Along the way they often pick up a few TrueView images, and those tend to stick with the coins.