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Bid Board Buying Strategies you used.

Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

If you are old enough to remember a bid board in a coin shop auction please tell us some of the tricks >:) you used to be a successful bidder.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    During the week I would go to the shop and rearrange the lots on the wall so that the coins I was going to bid on were next to each other in one small area. Others must have done the same thing because this continued until the day of the auction. Then I would need to note the final location of each lot on the night of the sale. You didn't do this with a bunch of bidders around waiting for the auction to end.

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 5, 2020 6:44AM

    'Old enough'? Come out to Tucson--a bunch of the shops still use bid boards.

    When I bought coins from this kind of auction (2007-2011), I usually bought European and Latin American gold (almost always BU). I filled two Dansco blank albums (the pages held flips) with coins before I sold them when gold went up enough to make a decent profit. With one exception (100 Fr Angel Writing--French gold coin ca. the size of a double eagle), I never paid above spot + 2%. Lots of interesting designs, and I learned some things (particularly authentication, since almost all of the foreign gold coins were raw).

    Most coins on bid boards are there for two reasons---they didn't sell well when in a case (low grade or foreign) and the boards get customers into the shops on Saturday mornings. The most important 'trick' is self control. On occasion, I watched two determined and antagonistic bidders run up bids way beyond what they were bidding on was worth. Once in a while, I noticed that an interesting foreign coin was misidentified. If I wanted it, I simply waited until the time of the actual auction to place my bid, after others had finished bidding. I usually got whatever I really wanted.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There was a shop I used to frequent in Renton, WA that had a bid board... It was still in active use in 2007...Never participated, but did buy some of their coins from them. Cheers, RickO

  • LRCTomLRCTom Posts: 857 ✭✭✭

    There was a shop in Pasadena, CA in the 80s with an active bid board. There would be drawing each week, usually for a 2 peso gold piece. I would bid on all the junk silver lots at the going rate, just to increase my odds of winning the gold. This worked well...I won a fair number.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Insult bid on almost everything that had no reserve. Be shocked and surprised if I won anything, and feel bad for the consignor. I did the same with Heritage bid sheets. Actually won a few.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The only one I ever participated in was at our annual club show when I lived in Ohio.
    Members had to submit coins one month prior to the show, and no reserves were allowed.
    Members were encouraged to place protective bids, if they wanted a 'reserve'. There were no fees or commissions charged to the consignors or buyers.

    As I was on the Bid Board committee, we put together the lot orders, grades, descriptions, and estimated values on sheets issued, then manned the table of lots and the board the day of the show, and we were allowed to bid on the coins ourselves, along with the other club members, the public, and the show dealers in attendance.

    I had my slips filled out and submitted my bids late in the auction, when of course things got crazy, as most others were doing the same thing, and there was generally >100 lots.
    The 'nice stuff' generally brought respectable prices, or had protective bids from the owners on them. But there were also a lot of bargains to be had as well, especially if the consignors didn't bother to place protective bids.

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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,028 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Elbow the other guy out

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  • NSPNSP Posts: 322 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Being a millennial, I am unfamiliar with what a “bid board” is/was. Does this video capture the general gist of how a bid board would work?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP6ce0ZEJw

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't tell.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bidask said:
    Elbow the other guy out

    A lot of this went on when someone was blocking a lot he wanted. Several times an arm would shoot past by ear to get to a lot I didn't care to bid on.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NSP

    Yes

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buy low sell high. Regards.

    PS: Village down in the ATX still had the bid board going last time I was down. It's been a few years though.

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  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,802 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I knew Type2 had a great eye and would let him do all the work and try to outbid him.

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,526 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 6, 2020 9:24AM

    The one I went to (Niles Coin Store) was still active recently (although just barely). It used to be better (with more variety and lower opening bids). My strategy was to wait until the end and to focus on overlooked coins (like foreign). I did win some at bargain prices. A few times there were bidding wars, but everything was fairly calm (no shoving that I recall). There was one nicely toned coin where my strategy did not work. It that had a higher opening and no action early in the week. I thought it would be a perfect opportunity to get it for the starting bid near the end. Unfortunately, when I arrived on the day of the auction, it was gone. Apparently the seller changed their mind and removed it (I'm not sure if they would have still been allowed to do so had I put the opening bid in when it was just posted).

  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The one I was involved with in the late 70's, closed at noon on Saturday. I would show up around 11:45 to check on my bids. I would bid a small jump on coins I wanted but wasn't desperate for and a larger bid for those that I really, really wanted and as close to the closing time as I could be. I got most of those.
    Once at a silent auction I was at, a guy started writing his name and bid a minute or two before the closing time...and took the full 2 minutes to do so! It caused a lot of complaining and he was instructed to not do that again.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Rollerman said:
    The one I was involved with in the late 70's, closed at noon on Saturday. I would show up around 11:45 to check on my bids. I would bid a small jump on coins I wanted but wasn't desperate for and a larger bid for those that I really, really wanted and as close to the closing time as I could be. I got most of those.
    Once at a silent auction I was at, a guy started writing his name and bid a minute or two before the closing time...and took the full 2 minutes to do so! It caused a lot of complaining and he was instructed to not do that again.

    About thirty five years ago, I went to a charity auction in DC and put a high bid on a guitar signed by Emmy Lou Harris. About a month later I got a phone call asking if I still wanted the item? I said yes, I had forgotten all about it. Apparently my first bid was a good one (stupid?) because no other attendees bid on the lot. I guess that night the Charity thought it was a joke bid and didn't know what to do. I had left earlier as you didn't need to be present to win. I guess they were able to eventually find me and called. Anyway, two people dropped off the guitar the next week, minus the signed picture and record album that went with the lot. :( I still have it.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had several bid numbers, and sometimes would bid on coins that I had no interest in to throw other bidders off.
    There would be several bidders who would want a coin because I had shown interest in it, and this would throw them off the scent (pun intended.)

  • Elcontador1Elcontador1 Posts: 101 ✭✭✭

    In the late 1960s, there were several bid boards not too far from where I lived and went to high school. Lots were generally a hodge podge of stuff that no one really wanted. There was a bid of $1.05 for something I wanted, and I bid $1.06 for it right before closing and got it.

    I still have things, like four circulated mint marked Mercs from the 1920s for which I paid something like $1.00. I still have an XF late date common IHC I think I paid $1 for it. You have to remember, back then you could get a 38 D Buff (the shop owner had rolls of them) in today what would be MS 66 for $1 or $2. Some of them might grade MS 67 by today's standards.

    Locally, the best place for coins were the George Bennett Auctions at the Masonic Hall in Van Nuys, CA.

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