How many fake slabs can you spot?........ *** Answer Zero ***
ifthevamzarockin
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How many fake slabs can you spot? ( Don't count the 2 oversized holders )
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Post the number you find.
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That is not a number.
Maybe in the morning, too tired to do so now!
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All of them.
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More genuine than fake.
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I have no idea.... slabs have not been an area of interest for me....When buying a slabbed coin, I usually check the cert number, if that is good, I move on to my other criteria. Cheers, RickO
And I thought COVID-19 scared me. I'll need to study these in depth and use some of our members as references ... who post to your thread before I post.
Good thread.
I see 2 slabs that stick out like a sore thumb and 3 labels that do not seem correct for gold shields.
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2 or 3.
Edited so others can add to the discussion. Will post my findings at the conclusion of the thread.
Very good but please wait to post diagnostics. Let people try to learn to spot it for themselves.
Thanks for looking & posting.
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Right back at you @ifthevamzarockin! Thanks for posting this. It’s a great educational tool!
Well I feel like a fool!
A late night post and everything is not as it appeared at first glance. ( Mental note research before posting )
After double checking images and cert #'s all appear to be genuine.
Some slab variations seen can be found on counterfeit slabs.
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I will leave the link up for a short while but will remove it very soon so there is no impact on the seller.
Edited to add: I thought there was 4
none. I checked about five and all were good so I'll assume you're confused. that is easy to be if you are suspicious because PCGS has a variety of slabs, it can be hard to keep pace with what is what.
I would ask the bigger question, what did you think was bad and why?? and what did downtown see that "stood out like a sore thumb" when nothing really did/does to me??
Seller does have an interesting variety of bi metallic coins for sale. I'm not a slab expert, as such, I could not spot any fake ones.
It happens to the best of us!
I went through these and picked a few out that looked suspect, but upon further examination all appear to be legitimate.
Some of the labels might appear off since the wording isn't centered or the gold shield looks a bit different, but the TruViews confirm that all match. I believe part of the confusion is that these were slabbed either in the Chinese or Paris PCGS locations and thus the slabs look slightly different than the typical ones we see that come from the main PCGS office here in California.
"I'll assume you're confused."
Yep
The things I was seeing is variations in the lables & gold shields & casting dots on the holder.
I've actually had some of his items on my watch list since I collect certain bimetallic coins. All of those looked real (hence I was a bit confused when people started mentioning multiple fake slabs).
I own many PCGS slabs, including gold shield slabs. I have never seen the rivet like contact point that I marked on the picture in black. After reading the post by ifthevamzarockin, I looked up gold shield slabs on eBay and did find a few. First time I’ve seen those. Good learning experience for me. I would have avoided bidding on a coin in this slab before this thread was created.
I always say "I learn more when I am wrong"
I’ll enjoy some crow with you.
Too bad I didn't find this for April 1st..... I could have played it off as a joke.
Made me look!
I have several "coins" in fake PCGS and NGC holders and several fakes in genuine holders and look at "suspicious" examples every day. I always try not to jump to conclusions on first impressions though, although in many cases I have been right, but do my due diligence first...
I had the opportunity to discuss the counterfeit slab issue in DC with Staffers of the Senate Finance Committee and members of the ACTF and took this one as an example of a fake holder. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't fool anyone here but to the uninitiated it was a good discussion piece.
Our host had some comparison photos showing a few different ones but I can't find them on the site anymore.
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There is the "PCGS Museum of Coin Holders" if that's what you mean. It is under the Resources section on both the top and bottom of the PCGS homepage.
If there is a comparison of real and fake holders, I don't know where that is.
https://pcgs.com/holders
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Rather than start a new thread on fake PCGS slabs, I'll post this here since I'm somewhat uncertain of this seller's offerings of PCGS graded Chinese coins , but this one seems to confirm my suspicions. I need further input
Here is the coins CERT VERIFICATION #80214960
and the TrueView of the real PCGS slabbed coin:
The coin clearly doesn't match the PCGS photos, the printing on the label is not as bold.
I see it has the smaller, thicker stacking corners....looks like they are keeping up with the times.
"I'm somewhat uncertain of this seller's offerings"
Care to share a few more?
They're selling quite a few coins but just 7 with PCGS in the title -
Yea, not good; thanks for the post.
Contacted the seller and he ended the auctions and one was removed.