Rattler Binge -- Just a Picture Post

DRUNNER · March 31, 2020 2:10PM

Home from school. 205 students turning in work online. Yup . . . I got Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime, but the shops in the area are closing down. However . . . figuring out this photo thing . . . so I just need topical relevance, and I will throw a pic out there.

I grab them when I can. Common . . . yes. Slab rarity is a function of daily rate x the number of days. The Doily, NGC 2.0, 2.1, Black . . . . . . . have rarity because of a small number of function 1 and function 2. The Rattler will never be 'scarce' due to a three-year slabbing timeframe. So . . . they will always be older . . . but they won't ever revamp slab rarity as there are just too many of them.

A few fun ones mixed in here . . . . . .

Drunner

toyz4geo · March 31, 2020 2:29PM

My Rattler Jeffersons. They weren't too popular in the Rattler days. A few of these are 1/1... or, unique for the date.

DRUNNER · March 31, 2020 2:35PM

Such a tough proposition . . .Rattler Jeffs! Keep in mind, back in 'the day', you had a coin the was worth (usually) about .25 - $5 . . .and you were going to spend $12-$14 to certify it. NOT many of those around . . . . (better dates excepted).

Drunner

SkyMan · March 31, 2020 2:38PM

@DRUNNER Fun stuff. It looks like some of your latter date Franklins might have some cameo going on. Is that the case? Thanks!

coinbuf · March 31, 2020 2:40PM

For sure not rare but still fun to collect when you find a nice example of both coin and slab. Sorry I do have many also but sadly no pics of them in a group just this single sellers pic that I bought from the BST.

DRUNNER · March 31, 2020 2:43PM

SkyMan . . . . yes, a touch!

I still owe you some of the titanium from that wreck. I have had it in a manila envelope for 5 years . . .guess I should get on with it !!!!

Drunner

DRUNNER · March 31, 2020 2:44PM

CoinBuf . . . that is a super sweet 30-S!

Drunner

oldabeintx · March 31, 2020 2:56PM

@coinbuf said:
For sure not rare but still fun to collect when you find a nice example of both coin and slab. Sorry I do have many also but sadly no pics of them in a group just this single sellers pic that I bought from the BST.

Looks like part of a roll I broke up many years ago. Most of the coins were almost white, super light colors. beauties.

Mercury · March 31, 2020 3:02PM

Working on a set of Peace Dollars in Rattler Holder.
Not all are Rattlers.

braddick · March 31, 2020 3:03PM

@toyz4geo said:
My Rattler Jeffersons. They weren't too popular in the Rattler days. A few of these are 1/1... or, unique for the date.

Any chance we could see a close-up of your 1942-S? It looks interesting.

coinbuf · March 31, 2020 3:11PM

@DRUNNER said:
CoinBuf . . . that is a super sweet 30-S!

Drunner

Thank you sir I totally agree, every bit as nice as the MS66 in my set

@oldabeintx said:
Looks like part of a roll I broke up many years ago. Most of the coins were almost white, super light colors. beauties.

You never know, it just could be.

toyz4geo · March 31, 2020 3:19PM

@DRUNNER said:
Such a tough proposition . . .Rattler Jeffs! Keep in mind, back in 'the day', you had a coin the was worth (usually) about .25 - $5 . . .and you were going to spend $12-$14 to certify it. NOT many of those around . . . . (better dates excepted).

Drunner

It has been an interesting challenge. I have a copy of the pop report from 9/89. Shows about 450+/- MS Jeffersons graded. Better dates definitely got the most submissions.

toyz4geo · March 31, 2020 3:28PM

@braddick said:

Any chance we could see a close-up of your 1942-S? It looks interesting.

Heavily toned for sure.

ironmanl63 · March 31, 2020 3:29PM

One of my favorites! If this coin isn't a 66 or better it isn't a coin!

DRUNNER · March 31, 2020 3:40PM

I feel totally inadequate! Quite superb examples above . . . . . . . .

Drunner

braddick · March 31, 2020 3:42PM

@toyz4geo said:

@braddick said:

Any chance we could see a close-up of your 1942-S? It looks interesting.

Heavily toned for sure.

Looks like a Black Betty!

Dave99B · March 31, 2020 4:02PM

Picked this up for $40 about 15-20
years ago. Not really a $1 guy, but I just had to have it.

Stay safe -
Dave

1Bufffan · March 31, 2020 4:09PM

All Great looking coins Thanks for sharing. Nice to look at all of them!

ThreeCentSilverFL · March 31, 2020 4:24PM

Great post. Here is one of mine. They are easy to handle. It does rattle

KindaNewish · March 31, 2020 4:24PM

@Dave99B said:
Picked this up for $40 about 15-20
years ago. Not really a $1 guy, but I just had to have it.

Stay safe -
Dave

lets see the other side of that beauty!
And at $40, that's at least an honorable mention in the "You Suck" awards.

KindaNewish · March 31, 2020 4:56PM

I have a few

DRUNNER · March 31, 2020 6:16PM

Dave . . .

Actually ,. . . . NOT a Rattler !! MUCH better! You have a Doily with the outer ring cracked off. The original Rattler case was used for the Doily . . . look at the insert compared with the others in this post.

You have a very nice holder there !!!!!

Drunner

PerryHall · April 1, 2020 2:20AM

@DRUNNER said:
Dave . . .

Actually ,. . . . NOT a Rattler !! MUCH better! You have a Doily with the outer ring cracked off. The original Rattler case was used for the Doily . . . look at the insert compared with the others in this post.

You have a very nice holder there !!!!!

Drunner

How much does having the outer ring cracked off hurt the collectibility of this slab?

Outhaul · April 1, 2020 2:28AM

DRUNNER · April 1, 2020 9:28AM

Perry . . . . . many discount them heavily but are unaware of the simplicity of repairing the outer ring. Just get a PCGS 2.0 (common 4-pin--the ONLY common 4-pin), find the location where the top and bottom of the ring unite (NOT . . . in the place that looks obvious), slide an X-Acto around 3/4 of the ring, just enough to make a "clamshell" . . .slide out the old 2.0 and sell it for junk . . .take the ring and slide it around the Doily . . . .a small dab of SuperGlue . . . .done.

I teach this at almost every coin show I attend . . . takes 3 minutes.

Drunner

robkool · April 1, 2020 1:34PM

Rattlers !!! Hmmm...

SkyMan · April 1, 2020 1:41PM

LJenkins11 · April 1, 2020 1:46PM

DRUNNER · April 1, 2020 2:31PM

Ohhh h h h h . . . . . I am sincerely impressed. Sky . . . . . . . ahem . . . . .quite an interesting piece I was able to entice out of you !!!!!

Rob . . . of course you are well aware what may be the highlight among your superb pieces is the box . . . . .

LJenkins . . thank you for the post! Nothing like a blaster 81-S . . .

Drunner

Kccoin · April 1, 2020 3:33PM

panexpoguy · April 1, 2020 3:40PM

Here is a little set I will likely never finish

ms70 · April 1, 2020 4:17PM

To this day I still feel rattlers are the best looking way to display a coin in a slab. I love the "floating" appearance.

SeattleSlammer · April 1, 2020 4:41PM

@SkyMan said:

Wowsers. 😆✨✨✨

KindaNewish · April 1, 2020 5:44PM

@panexpoguy said:
Here is a little set I will likely never finish

Superb!
From this day forward I shall never bid on a MS Washington rattler. This set must continue without my interference.
Carry on!
I won't ever upbid you again, that is the beginnings of a glorious set.

FranklinHalfAddict · April 1, 2020 5:50PM

@toyz4geo said:
My Rattler Jeffersons. They weren't too popular in the Rattler days. A few of these are 1/1... or, unique for the date.

Such a cool group! Until your post now, I’ve never really noticed how few jefferson nickels there are in rattlers. Also, that 1943/2 caught my eye!

OldIndianNutKase · April 1, 2020 8:52PM

There are lots of good reasons to crack a rattler........and only one reason not to do that.

There is a market for rattlers. But while coins entombed 35-40 years ago were graded to "perhaps" a stricter grading standard, they are not graded to a contemporary grading standard, and photo images of the rattler probably do not exist.

I think rattlers are best described as a collection of coins and antiques.....and fulfilling the needs of both.

OINK

SkyMan · April 1, 2020 11:05PM

@OldIndianNutKase said:
There are lots of good reasons to crack a rattler........and only one reason not to do that.

There is a market for rattlers. But while coins entombed 35-40 years ago were graded to "perhaps" a stricter grading standard, they are not graded to a contemporary grading standard, and photo images of the rattler probably do not exist.

I think rattlers are best described as a collection of coins and antiques.....and fulfilling the needs of both.

OINK

As of in all things, it depends. I have been told by various dealers, several of whom have already offered me MS63 - MS64 money, to not bother cracking the DBHE $1 slab, indeed to not bother CAC'ing it either. Needless to say, I have no plans to crack it. Good Lord willing it won't be sold for another 20ish years, during which I and my family plan to enjoy it.

asheland · April 2, 2020 12:06PM

My only rattler:

asheland · April 2, 2020 12:08PM

FranklinHalfAddict · April 2, 2020 9:02PM

I only have three at the moment:

1tommy · April 3, 2020 4:40AM

WaterSport · April 3, 2020 5:56AM

Of the almost 600 Lincolns I have - this is the only rattler.
WS

bob48 · April 4, 2020 11:47AM

Here is a link to my Rattlers on the set Registry set under Collector Showcases/First Generation Holders. As I have 437 Rattlers
One neat one to look at is the 1951 Lincoln as the label was torn in two pieces and the reverse label was installed upside down, only one I have ever seen.
My 1893-S Morgan would be my most expensive Rattler and I have ten 1881-S in serial number order and a grading set of 81-S in AU-58 to MS-66.
Been at this since 2006 and still buying them today, never got a white rattler though.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/first-generation-holders/rjp-rattler-collection/1309

DRUNNER · April 4, 2020 4:24PM

Tremendous . . . . . .

Drunner

Mercury · April 5, 2020 10:51AM

@bob48 said:
Here is a link to my Rattlers on the set Registry set under Collector Showcases/First Generation Holders. As I have 437 Rattlers
One neat one to look at is the 1951 Lincoln as the label was torn in two pieces and the reverse label was installed upside down, only one I have ever seen.
My 1893-S Morgan would be my most expensive Rattler and I have ten 1881-S in serial number order and a grading set of 81-S in AU-58 to MS-66.
Been at this since 2006 and still buying them today, never got a white rattler though.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/first-generation-holders/rjp-rattler-collection/1309

Wow, just Wow
Mercury

CoinHoarder · April 6, 2020 11:14AM

MonsterCoinz · April 6, 2020 7:15PM

I've added a couple more to the set but still have a few holes to fill.

cccoins · April 6, 2020 9:32PM

My one and only rattler.

cccoins · April 6, 2020 9:33PM

Somehow all of the pictures didn't get captured.

PaperIsForBooks · April 6, 2020 10:12PM

My only one:

PaperIsForBooks · April 6, 2020 10:20PM

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