I think it’s fairly easy to disparage a coin without also disparaging collectors, by using terms such as “stoopid money”. And there are plenty of things people can say to make others laugh, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s appropriate.
He said stoopid money not stoopid collector.
True, and I didn’t call him “stoopid” or say he had spent “stoopid” money for anything. So why is his opinion OK to post, but mine isn’t?
I didn't say you called him stupid.
You are scolding him for using the term stoopid money as if he called the collector stupid.
A good number of your posts that I read are you criticizing in some way or another someone else's posts. I quite enjoy many of your posts. Not so much the ones where you play forum DAD.
I think it’s fairly easy to disparage a coin without also disparaging collectors, by using terms such as “stoopid money”. And there are plenty of things people can say to make others laugh, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s appropriate.
He said stoopid money not stoopid collector.
True, and I didn’t call him “stoopid” or say he had spent “stoopid” money for anything. So why is his opinion OK to post, but mine isn’t?
I didn't say you called him stupid.
You are scolding him for using the term stoopid money as if he called the collector stupid.
A good number of your posts that I read are you criticizing in some way or another someone else's posts. I quite enjoy many of your posts. Not so much the ones where you play forum DAD.
Point taken.
Edited to add: I wasn’t implying that you said I called him “stupid”. My point was that I expressed my opinion about his post, just as he expressed his opinion that any amount “over silver” spent by the winning bidder was “stoopid money”.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld said:
I wonder what would have happened if the coin has been posted by someone, asking for help in identifying it. For example, without the benefit of any clues, how many of the posters to this thread would have known the coin was a New Rochelle?
@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
I think everyone should take a deep breath, step back, and stop arguing about something so trivial and stewpihd.
Let’s let it go fellas👍🏻
Thanks not sure what we would have done without this brilliant post.
@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
I think everyone should take a deep breath, step back, and stop arguing about something so trivial and stewpihd.
Let’s let it go fellas👍🏻
Thanks not sure what we would have done without this brilliant post.
In the spirit of cooperation, I’m going to refrain from commenting on the spelling error in his post. 😉 Partly because I appreciated it.👍
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
I think everyone should take a deep breath, step back, and stop arguing about something so trivial and stewpihd.
Let’s let it go fellas👍🏻
Thanks not sure what we would have done without this brilliant post.
Probably at least one of you would have continued to act like a child.
"Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
@50cCOMMEMGUY said:
I think everyone should take a deep breath, step back, and stop arguing about something so trivial and stewpihd.
Let’s let it go fellas👍🏻
Thanks not sure what we would have done without this brilliant post.
Probably at least one of you would have continued to act like a child.
Absolutely amazing coin. I would not have paid that price but I love it. I once owned a 1888(I think that was the date) in PCGS P01 . Before I sold it , it was one of my favorite coins. I paid $100 for it maybe 8-10 years ago. Many people said I was nuts for paying that much.
That coin is uber cool. If you had a show and tell with 10 collectors each with an amazing box of 20 trust me this coin would be amongst the most talked about. It would be amongst the most memorable.
Congrats to the buyer of that coin. It’s that special.
It my pre Covid 19 auction notes I had an estimate of $2500 to $5000. I gave it a wide berth as this coin is an anomaly.
MFeld. I certainly know where you are coming from. It irks me too for a split second but at the end of the day sometime s you just consider the source and move on . Some folks have limited scope. Sort of like Derek Zoolander who can only turn right. But, at the end of the day everyone gets an opinion.
m
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@DRUNNER said:
I just saw the selling price . . . . . . . .
Drunner
I just saw the pre-auction estimate
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
“You are scolding him for using the term stoopid money as if he called the collector stupid.
A good number of your posts that I read are you criticizing in some way or another someone else's posts. I quite enjoy many of your posts. Not so much the ones where you play forum DAD.”
News flash... stoopid money translates to stupid collector! Do you really believe “money” operates independently to the person spending it? That “money” has its own mind? Lol. Which is exactly why I stepped in as well. Jon is a good guy, but truly needs to stop this opinionated dialog that he so often expressed in the past when it came to modern coins as well. The translation is “collector stupid” to anyone understanding English.
Sorry for the reality check.
Wondercoin
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@jonathanb said:
I've posted this before, but now it's worth more! :-) (and no, still not for sale, sorry!)
There actually was one of these slabbed as PO-01 in the same same sale as the New Rochelle, one lot earlier. Mine wins!
Now you've got me looking at the whole run of lowball classic commems. I have a pocket piece Sesqui that I've carried for close to 15 years that looks even "worse" than the Fair-2 in this auction. I showed my sons the pics and PR and told them I may have to stop carrying it around now.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
I have never understood the attraction to a worn out pocket pieces. Dealers are looking for profits, and I understand this, but I don’t want this stuff as a collector. I am entitled to my opinion. This is a lump of silver with no history and no numismatic importance.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
I find circulated commemoratives very intriguing, though my "sweet spot" is more in the AG03 - VG08 range. I do think it is fascinating to look at a commemorative that has the "feel" of a well circulated Barber or Walker. Also ... and I appreciate that this may seem like quite a stretch ... I learn things about the design elements by seeing how the coin wears.
I just don’t understand how that does not qualify as damaged. Shit little ring dings our hosts would body bag in the past, that coin is rubbed smooth, that is not damage? Come on. I just had a colonial copper come back details graded and it was a thousand precent better than the coin at the center of this discussion in appearance at least.
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I've seen some very nice circulated commems posted here over the years. This particular piece does nothing for me. But hey, my opinion and $5 will get you a latte.
@Justacommeman said:
That coin is amazing. If you had a show and tell with 10 collectors each with an amazing box of 20 trust me this coin would be amongst the most talked about. It would be amongst the most memorable.
I like the coin but not to that degree. What am I missing. I actually purchased one of the lowball coins. A pop 1 of a much cooler coin in my opinion. For a fraction of the cost.
@BillJones said:
I have never understood the attraction to a worn out pocket pieces. Dealers are looking for profits, and I understand this, but I don’t want this stuff as a collector. I am entitled to my opinion. This is a lump of silver with no history and no numismatic importance.
You're right that it has "no history and no numismatic importance". At least virtually none. But the coin is so unusual that it's amusing, and that has value to many of us.
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
@wondercoin said:
“You are scolding him for using the term stoopid money as if he called the collector stupid.
A good number of your posts that I read are you criticizing in some way or another someone else's posts. I quite enjoy many of your posts. Not so much the ones where you play forum DAD.”
News flash... stoopid money translates to stupid collector! Do you really believe “money” operates independently to the person spending it? That “money” has its own mind? Lol. Which is exactly why I stepped in as well. Jon is a good guy, but truly needs to stop this opinionated dialog that he so often expressed in the past when it came to modern coins as well. The translation is “collector stupid” to anyone understanding English.
Please!!!! You need a different translator! In no way whatsoever did I read his post as negative to the collector. I fully understood it to mean he thought it was a ridiculous price paid for the coin. Are you going to tell me everyone who thinks someone spent to much on a coin is disparaging the collector. What a joke! I do not know Jon or have any thoughts about him negative or positive. Judging from your comment about modern coin it seems like you do! How arrogant are you to think you are the translation king of the world. You may understand English but have no ability to look at yourself and your biases!
Sorry for the reality check.
Don't be sorry. I do not know you but judging from your post a mirror would be your best friend! And I am not sorry to say it.
Matt. In my opinion, You are wrong. Money doesn’t have a mind. If it did, you would be correct.
And, not too much different than when someone attacks the quality of a coin For the grade and the collector or dealer who bought it defends their purchase. Again, the coin doesn’t have a mind to defend itself. This happens all the time.
Enough said.
Wondercoin
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@wondercoin said:
Matt. In my opinion, You are wrong. Money doesn’t have a mind. If it did, you would be correct.
And, not too much different than when someone attacks the quality of a coin For the grade and the collector or dealer who bought it defends their purchase. Again, the coin doesn’t have a mind to defend itself. This happens all the time.
Enough said.
Wondercoin
If you say I am wrong it must be so!
Money has a mind people attack coins. Yes I agree enough has been said.
@wondercoin said:
Matt. You are wrong. Money doesn’t have a mind. If it did, you would be correct.
And, not too much different than when someone attacks the quality of a coin For the grade and the collector or dealer who bought it defends their purchase. Again, the coin doesn’t have a mind to defend itself. This happens all the time.
Enough said.
Wondercoin
Glad you took your opinion out and changed it to I am flat wrong. Makes it seem that much more convincing. LOL
Totally neat coin! I remember back in the late 1980's, early 1990's going to the Long Beach coin show and seeing a dealer who had an old Library of Coins commemorative album and within it were super lowball commemoratives. He had probably half of the album filled- all not for sale.
I was intrigued. Enough so I began my quest for these neat, ultra worn coins. Other than a member here who owns a PCGS GD04 Hawaiian commemorative have a seen such a cool looking coin.
I suppose gone though are the days when these could randomly (albeit seldom!) be acquired, even looking at dealer inventories at large shows- on a modest budget.
@Mgarmy said:
I just don’t understand how that does not qualify as damaged. Shit little ring dings our hosts would body bag in the past, that coin is rubbed smooth, that is not damage? Come on. I just had a colonial copper come back details graded and it was a thousand precent better than the coin at the center of this discussion in appearance at least.
It sounds as if you’re confusing wear with damage or other problems (whether man-made or environmental). Those are very different things and are understandably treated differently in the world of coin grading.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Mgarmy said:
I just don’t understand how that does not qualify as damaged. Shit little ring dings our hosts would body bag in the past, that coin is rubbed smooth, that is not damage? Come on. I just had a colonial copper come back details graded and it was a thousand precent better than the coin at the center of this discussion in appearance at least.
It sounds as if you’re confusing wear with damage or other problems (whether man-made or environmental). Those are very different things and are understandably treated differently in the world of coin grading.
Mark- of course I defer to your experience but the rules seem subjective here. A one hundred or two hundred plus year old coin in circulation is going to get worn and is going to get bumped around be it in a strong box on a stage coach or slid along a counter as payment and worn down and rubbed smooth. The removal of the image on the coin through normal wear is just as natural as dings on edges, yet treated entirely different.
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@Mgarmy said:
I just don’t understand how that does not qualify as damaged. Shit little ring dings our hosts would body bag in the past, that coin is rubbed smooth, that is not damage? Come on. I just had a colonial copper come back details graded and it was a thousand precent better than the coin at the center of this discussion in appearance at least.
It sounds as if you’re confusing wear with damage or other problems (whether man-made or environmental). Those are very different things and are understandably treated differently in the world of coin grading.
Mark- of course I defer to your experience but the rules seem subjective here. A one hundred or two hundred plus year old coin in circulation is going to get worn and is going to get bumped around be it in a strong box on a stage coach or slid along a counter as payment and worn down and rubbed smooth. The removal of the image on the coin through normal wear is just as natural as dings on edges, yet treated entirely different.
I see your point. With respect to flaws such as dings, scratches, hairlines and even cleaning, allowances are made. But it’s a matter of degree and admittedly, a judgement call, regarding where to draw the line between a details-grade and a straight grade.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@CoinJunkie said:
I've seen some very nice circulated commems posted here over the years. This particular piece does nothing for me. But hey, my opinion and $5 will get you a latte.
But currently, it would need to be a take out latte.😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Wow, I would like to know how it got worn down like that - all I can think of is it was a pocket piece for 60 years from a member of the New Rochelle Country Club.
I find circulated commemoratives very intriguing, though my "sweet spot" is more in the AG03 - VG08 range. I do think it is fascinating to look at a commemorative that has the "feel" of a well circulated Barber or Walker. Also ... and I appreciate that this may seem like quite a stretch ... I learn things about the design elements by seeing how the coin wears.
One tangential big picture thing that I appreciate about this thread and classic commems themselves is that they can and do (in the past) slip right into the money supply alongside Barbers, Walkers and Franklins. As I mentioned elsewhere, I like tokens -- and coins -- that fulfill their purpose (they can have more than one), even to the extreme. No Marshall Islands NC"LT" for me.
Obviously by the responses and the fact that this thread was created, it must be very high. I'll guess $4K. If pocketpiececommems was outbid, it must have been high.
To each their own. Many could question the intelligence of paying a lot more money for a die variety or RPM that require a loupe to even see.
Edit: I should add, without the comments leading me to increase my guess, I probably would have said $1.5-2K
Comments
I didn't say you called him stupid.
You are scolding him for using the term stoopid money as if he called the collector stupid.
A good number of your posts that I read are you criticizing in some way or another someone else's posts. I quite enjoy many of your posts. Not so much the ones where you play forum DAD.
Point taken.
Edited to add: I wasn’t implying that you said I called him “stupid”. My point was that I expressed my opinion about his post, just as he expressed his opinion that any amount “over silver” spent by the winning bidder was “stoopid money”.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
I think everyone should take a deep breath, step back, and stop arguing about something so trivial and stewpihd.
Let’s let it go fellas👍🏻
"Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
I knew
Lafayette Grading Set
Thanks not sure what we would have done without this brilliant post.
In the spirit of cooperation, I’m going to refrain from commenting on the spelling error in his post. 😉 Partly because I appreciated it.👍
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Probably at least one of you would have continued to act like a child.
"Today the crumbs, tomorrow the
loaf. Perhaps someday the whole damn boulangerie." - fictional Jack Rackham
OK DAD.
Absolutely amazing coin. I would not have paid that price but I love it. I once owned a 1888(I think that was the date) in PCGS P01 . Before I sold it , it was one of my favorite coins. I paid $100 for it maybe 8-10 years ago. Many people said I was nuts for paying that much.
Would it have sold for less if it had a gold sticker?
So what did it go for? I looked twice through the thread. Am I missing it?
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PM sent.
This link was provided, but we were asked not to post the price in this thread:
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-LY84C/1938-new-rochelle-new-york-25
Never see one like that. I like it!
At least it has PROVEN itself to be a true conversation piece.
That coin is uber cool. If you had a show and tell with 10 collectors each with an amazing box of 20 trust me this coin would be amongst the most talked about. It would be amongst the most memorable.
Congrats to the buyer of that coin. It’s that special.
It my pre Covid 19 auction notes I had an estimate of $2500 to $5000. I gave it a wide berth as this coin is an anomaly.
MFeld. I certainly know where you are coming from. It irks me too for a split second but at the end of the day sometime s you just consider the source and move on . Some folks have limited scope. Sort of like Derek Zoolander who can only turn right. But, at the end of the day everyone gets an opinion.
m
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
How can you really authenticate such a coin? You can check its composition, but not a whole lot else. I'm not suggesting it is not authentic.
Was there any tie between the coin being NEW ROCHELLE and the NEW ROCHELLE Covid Hot Spot?
Holy moly! What a price!
Latin American Collection
I’d pay scrape, not even melt.
I just saw the pre-auction estimate
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
I've posted this before, but now it's worth more! :-) (and no, still not for sale, sorry!)
There actually was one of these slabbed as PO-01 in the same same sale as the New Rochelle, one lot earlier. Mine wins!
“You are scolding him for using the term stoopid money as if he called the collector stupid.
A good number of your posts that I read are you criticizing in some way or another someone else's posts. I quite enjoy many of your posts. Not so much the ones where you play forum DAD.”
News flash... stoopid money translates to stupid collector! Do you really believe “money” operates independently to the person spending it? That “money” has its own mind? Lol. Which is exactly why I stepped in as well. Jon is a good guy, but truly needs to stop this opinionated dialog that he so often expressed in the past when it came to modern coins as well. The translation is “collector stupid” to anyone understanding English.
Sorry for the reality check.
Wondercoin
Now you've got me looking at the whole run of lowball classic commems. I have a pocket piece Sesqui that I've carried for close to 15 years that looks even "worse" than the Fair-2 in this auction. I showed my sons the pics and PR and told them I may have to stop carrying it around now.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Old coin dealer habits are hard to kick, no?
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
I have never understood the attraction to a worn out pocket pieces. Dealers are looking for profits, and I understand this, but I don’t want this stuff as a collector. I am entitled to my opinion. This is a lump of silver with no history and no numismatic importance.
@BillJones
I find circulated commemoratives very intriguing, though my "sweet spot" is more in the AG03 - VG08 range. I do think it is fascinating to look at a commemorative that has the "feel" of a well circulated Barber or Walker. Also ... and I appreciate that this may seem like quite a stretch ... I learn things about the design elements by seeing how the coin wears.
I just don’t understand how that does not qualify as damaged. Shit little ring dings our hosts would body bag in the past, that coin is rubbed smooth, that is not damage? Come on. I just had a colonial copper come back details graded and it was a thousand precent better than the coin at the center of this discussion in appearance at least.
100% positive transactions with SurfinxHI, bigole, 1madman, collectorcoins, proofmorgan, Luke Marshall, silver pop, golden egg, point five zero,coin22lover, alohagary, blaircountycoin,joebb21
I've seen some very nice circulated commems posted here over the years. This particular piece does nothing for me. But hey, my opinion and $5 will get you a latte.
I like the coin but not to that degree. What am I missing. I actually purchased one of the lowball coins. A pop 1 of a much cooler coin in my opinion. For a fraction of the cost.
You're right that it has "no history and no numismatic importance". At least virtually none. But the coin is so unusual that it's amusing, and that has value to many of us.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Please!!!! You need a different translator! In no way whatsoever did I read his post as negative to the collector. I fully understood it to mean he thought it was a ridiculous price paid for the coin. Are you going to tell me everyone who thinks someone spent to much on a coin is disparaging the collector. What a joke! I do not know Jon or have any thoughts about him negative or positive. Judging from your comment about modern coin it seems like you do! How arrogant are you to think you are the translation king of the world. You may understand English but have no ability to look at yourself and your biases!
Don't be sorry. I do not know you but judging from your post a mirror would be your best friend! And I am not sorry to say it.
Matt
so how much longer should I carry this one?
Matt. In my opinion, You are wrong. Money doesn’t have a mind. If it did, you would be correct.
And, not too much different than when someone attacks the quality of a coin For the grade and the collector or dealer who bought it defends their purchase. Again, the coin doesn’t have a mind to defend itself. This happens all the time.
Enough said.
Wondercoin
If you say I am wrong it must be so!
Money has a mind people attack coins. Yes I agree enough has been said.
Glad you took your opinion out and changed it to I am flat wrong. Makes it seem that much more convincing. LOL
Totally neat coin! I remember back in the late 1980's, early 1990's going to the Long Beach coin show and seeing a dealer who had an old Library of Coins commemorative album and within it were super lowball commemoratives. He had probably half of the album filled- all not for sale.
I was intrigued. Enough so I began my quest for these neat, ultra worn coins. Other than a member here who owns a PCGS GD04 Hawaiian commemorative have a seen such a cool looking coin.
I suppose gone though are the days when these could randomly (albeit seldom!) be acquired, even looking at dealer inventories at large shows- on a modest budget.
peacockcoins
Not too much longer....they might not be able to discern the mintmark (or lack of one.)
Cool coin.
I'd worry it would fall out of my pocket.
It sounds as if you’re confusing wear with damage or other problems (whether man-made or environmental). Those are very different things and are understandably treated differently in the world of coin grading.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
If the OP hadn't diclosed what it was I would have never known. I'll wager $400.
Mark- of course I defer to your experience but the rules seem subjective here. A one hundred or two hundred plus year old coin in circulation is going to get worn and is going to get bumped around be it in a strong box on a stage coach or slid along a counter as payment and worn down and rubbed smooth. The removal of the image on the coin through normal wear is just as natural as dings on edges, yet treated entirely different.
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I see your point. With respect to flaws such as dings, scratches, hairlines and even cleaning, allowances are made. But it’s a matter of degree and admittedly, a judgement call, regarding where to draw the line between a details-grade and a straight grade.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
But currently, it would need to be a take out latte.😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Got dings? Wear em off for fun and profit!
Reverse conservation.
Wow, I would like to know how it got worn down like that - all I can think of is it was a pocket piece for 60 years from a member of the New Rochelle Country Club.
@topstuf said ”Got dings? Wear em off for fun and profit! ”
It is a tempting endeavor! But, based on personal experience, it takes an incredible amount of time to wear away a flaw.
“Honest wear” is a valuable commodity.
Here's one I picked up with the same provenance. I've always wanted this type so now I have one!
One tangential big picture thing that I appreciate about this thread and classic commems themselves is that they can and do (in the past) slip right into the money supply alongside Barbers, Walkers and Franklins. As I mentioned elsewhere, I like tokens -- and coins -- that fulfill their purpose (they can have more than one), even to the extreme. No Marshall Islands NC"LT" for me.
Obviously by the responses and the fact that this thread was created, it must be very high. I'll guess $4K. If pocketpiececommems was outbid, it must have been high.
To each their own. Many could question the intelligence of paying a lot more money for a die variety or RPM that require a loupe to even see.
Edit: I should add, without the comments leading me to increase my guess, I probably would have said $1.5-2K