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Has anyone seen this TPG slab before?

toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

I was surfing the 'Bay for a commemorative for my 7070 and came across this. I put in a bid and low and behold, I won it. I figured I'd just pop it out and put it in my 7070. It arrived today but now, I don't know.

In hand, it is an interesting slab. Before I do something I might regret, does anyone have any info on this TPG. I seem to be drawn to oddball things and this is one.

Thanks in advance,
George

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  • koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's new to me. Looks like another home slabber. Is it sonically sealed?

  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,083 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've seen these before, but I think the company went out of business in the late 1980s. The holders are pretty scarce, though I do not know of anyone who pays a premium for them. That said, I think it would be foolish to break this coin out of the holder as the issue is common as dirt (Iowa commem) and is fairly inexpensive.

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 21, 2020 10:40PM

    Never seen one but the grading looks spot on. Neat holder!

    $565 though, for a MS-64 Iowa.. ouch. I think you can get PCGS MS67+ CACs for less now.

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,832 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are some old threads on this, this one has some info on the company. https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/12533809#Comment_12533809

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very neat and rare old slab. I'd keep it as is. It's interesting how the owner's valuation is shown on the label.

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 22, 2020 4:07AM

    @PerryHall said:
    Very neat and rare old slab. I'd keep it as is. It's interesting how the owner's valuation is shown on the label.

    The financial spread between MS 64 in MS65 on pretty much all material was way higher in the 80s. I wonder if owners valued for the grade they hoped for.

    Almost every auction I’ve seen shows MS64 coins— most would make 65 these days.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As I mentioned in the referenced thread, I saw these slabs occasionally at shows in the PNW....Never purchased one - none had coins I was seeking - but probably should have, just to preserve an old slab. Cheers, RickO

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,670 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kiyote said:
    Never seen one but the grading looks spot on. Neat holder!

    $565 though, for a MS-64 Iowa.. ouch. I think you can get PCGS MS67+ CACs for less now.

    And that summarizes the Commem market over the last 30 years. $565 was not an unreasonable price in 1989.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's different. Real nice.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,250 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thats pretty neat to see

  • toyz4geotoyz4geo Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good Morning.

    Well, it looks as if I will be looking for another commemorative for my 7070. I appreciate the comments. As TomB said, it would be foolish to crack it out..it is a piece of numismatic history I guess.

    The slab does appear to be sonically or otherwise sealed. I couldn’t find much about the slabbed but I think it just found a place in my collection of odd/different slabs. Downside.....it doesn’t fit in any of my PCGS boxes.

    I did come across a site listing other slAbbers. NNCS was not included. Link below. From google.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=22&ved=2ahUKEwi3wfKSkq7oAhUIbc0KHXYJCzo4FBAWMAF6BAgGEAE&url=http://postman180.tripod.com/coins_slabcompanies.html&usg=AOvVaw1Hktac9mTKZxGjU1cufWpS

    Thanks again for your insights.
    George

  • 09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭

    Yes. NNCS Was located in Marlboro, Massachusetts about 1 mile from where I used to live. When I sold my whole collection in 2012 to fund my daughter's education the only coin I kept. Mine is an 1888 Morgan in 64. The cardboard is making the coin tone very nicely. Not worth much but priceless to me. As mentioned, the company went out of business around 1988.

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Back in the days I was collecting the oddball slabs, I had one of these. Can't recall what coin was inside, but I was able to sell at a profit when I liquidated them. Biggest issue for me was the fact it was so big - storage was an issue for me.

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  • ianrussellianrussell Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've had some of these, and the coins actually graded higher when I submitted to PCGS.

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  • 50cCOMMEMGUY50cCOMMEMGUY Posts: 211 ✭✭✭

    I think that price woulda actually been accurate at that time. Crazy looking back.
    That’s a 60-70$ coin now, maybe...
    Of all the early commems it’s probably the easiest and cheapest to find gem outside the WCs and BTWs.

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  • 50cCOMMEMGUY50cCOMMEMGUY Posts: 211 ✭✭✭

    @09sVDB said:
    Yes. NNCS Was located in Marlboro, Massachusetts about 1 mile from where I used to live. When I sold my whole collection in 2012 to fund my daughter's education the only coin I kept.

    Dang, you’re a good dad!

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  • BStrauss3BStrauss3 Posts: 3,700 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, seen them, not one I've researched. Not common, sort of all over the block with which coins they "slabbed"

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do not know that one at all. Belongs in “The Slab Museum” when it gets built.

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  • 09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭

    Yes . Selling the collection was the best thing I did. Now she's making well into the six figures (for now) as a software engineer and buying me coins!

  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭✭

    From Conder101’s slab encyclopedia:

    “I know nothing about this service other than that it was reported to me to have been located in Marlboro, Massachusetts and produced a rectangular slab beginning in 1986. Update: 12/00 I have been able to confirm the existence of the company. The report of their location was correct. They seemed to be quite confident in their abilities at least in authentication. If a coin in their holders is proved to be counterfeit they would not only pay the owner the declared value of the coin but 14% interest compounded annually. The slab also contains the address and phone number of their claims department so you can contact them directly”.

    He also went on to write:

    The company apparently was active for about two years, from 1986 to 1988. The picture in his book is a 1936 York commemorative in MS64+ and a staled value of $1050.

    Hmmm, companies using a + grade almost 35 years ago?

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