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Chopmark guys: Clean or dirty?

WeissWeiss Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭✭✭

I'm not talking about dipping or MS70ing or 80 grit sandpapering.
Not "cleaning cleaning". Just, would you rather have the chops filled with the opium, dirt, snot, etc. Or would you rather have the chops carefully excavated with a toothpick?


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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My vote is “not cleaned”, although I’m still picky about the coins I pick up. Too much dirt/corrosion/China gunk is a turn off.

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    ChopmarkedTradesChopmarkedTrades Posts: 559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Talking about examples that are sufficiently circulated to have these features, I'd rather have the coin as original as possible. Someone who is interested in chops is interested in the story of the circulation.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll let someone else pick out the snot, thank you!

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    OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Leave them be.

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The grime is part of the originality.

    Especially with chops, which are seemingly difficult to actually authenticate, evidence of originality is key.

    A well worn and dirty coin with clean chops would be suspect to me.

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    topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would quarantine them for 3 weeks.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dirty chops show up the best but then you cannot see the interior "fabric" of the mark. Which do you think is more important? :)

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    TradesWithChopsTradesWithChops Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭

    I prefer them uncleaned.

    Minor Variety Trade dollar's with chop marks set:
    More Than It's Chopped Up To Be

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13, 2020 10:15AM

    Another thought. On circulated pieces - dirty. On MS pieces - clean.

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    TradesWithChopsTradesWithChops Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13, 2020 10:25AM

    @Insider2 said:
    Another thought. On circulated pieces - dirty. On MS pieces - clean.

    I still prefer some dirt, even on ms pieces. Afterall, it is theorized that the majority of trade dollars were smuggled out of China in barrels/jugs of tar.

    I mean, not a ton of gunk, but I do prefer the look of a little bit of it.

    although, it does seem most of my unc pieces dont have gunk. you may be on to something with this thought.

    Minor Variety Trade dollar's with chop marks set:
    More Than It's Chopped Up To Be

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    TradesWithChopsTradesWithChops Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13, 2020 10:26AM

    .

    Minor Variety Trade dollar's with chop marks set:
    More Than It's Chopped Up To Be

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TradesWithChops said: "Afterall, it is theorized that the majority of trade dollars were smuggled out of China in barrels/jugs of tar."

    I'd like to read about that. Reference?

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    JBKJBK Posts: 17,434 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TradesWithChops said:

    although, it does seem most of my unc pieces dont have gunk. you may be on to something with this thought.

    As I would expect them to be, Aside from the reference to barrels of tar, gunk gets there through circulation and being passed from gunky hand to gunly hand. An unc coin should have clean chops.

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    BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The three coins in the first photo are totally acceptable in their present condition.

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    SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 13, 2020 1:37PM

    @topstuf said> I would quarantine them for 3 weeks.

    That may not be long enough. Hit them with dilute bleach (that will nuke viruses). Of course, you would end up with purple-to-black coins, but they would be safe to handle. B)

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I consider those coins acceptable as is.... that is accumulated grime from commerce. That being said, most of it would come off with acetone if it bothers you, it is mostly organic....a good soak and rinse vigorously. Cheers, RickO

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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I dip in acetone to remove all loose organic objects.

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    MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 9,246 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You knew the answer before you asked. We like em dirty. B)

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