What do you do with a coin like this that has rotated in its holder, and it is not an old rattler

BUFFNIXX · February 10, 2020 3:59PM

Say you are looking to by an ms66 1913-s type one buffalo nickel and you run across this coin.
What do you do, pass or consider it? Is it possible to get the coin rotated back to normal. OK you could just send it in for
reholdering but then what would you do if the coin had the “green bean” on it? We are all used to seeing this on
the old original Rattler slabs from pcgs but not a newer holder. I thought the newer holders eliminated this problem.

BryceM · February 10, 2020 4:04PM

Still happens sometimes. If it moved once, it can again. Tap an edge gently on a table, hit it with an electric toothbrush, or similar. It'll go back (but likely move again).

JBK · February 10, 2020 4:45PM

Or just call it the "Sleeping Indian" variety.

Cameonut · February 10, 2020 4:50PM

I start with the easy method. I press my dry Sonicare toothbrush case against the slab, sometimes that works to rotate the coin.
If that doesn't work, I rap a lower corner repeatedly against a sticky note pad to get results.

lkeigwin · February 10, 2020 4:50PM

You can try this. Often it works. Sometimes not.
Lance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lcw3byWxrA

asheland · February 10, 2020 4:54PM

Check this one out!

In fairness, they were all wonky with rotated dies.

winesteven · February 11, 2020 4:27AM

@BUFFNIXX said:
Say you are looking to by an ms66 1913-s type one buffalo nickel and you run across this coin.
What do you do, pass or consider it? Is it possible to get the coin rotated back to normal. OK you could just send it in for
reholdering but then what would you do if the coin had the “green bean” on it?

PCGS will retain the same cert number upon reholdering (to play it safe, request that on the submission form). Then send it to CAC, and for only $3, they’ll AUTOMATICALLY reapply the sticker. Naturally, you’ll have round trip shipping.

Outhaul · February 11, 2020 4:47AM

That is the rare and elusive 40° obverse and reverse rotated coin. Great find!

Treashunt · February 11, 2020 5:02AM

hold it by the bottom left corner, then gently [not too gently] tap it on a table.

Keep tapping and it will gradually rotate back in place.

It takes a bit of time, but it works.

Nothing happening? Tap harder

Jimnight · February 11, 2020 5:09AM

Good luck!

BuffaloIronTail · February 11, 2020 6:13AM

@Treashunt said:
hold it by the bottom left corner, then gently [not too gently] tap it on a table.

Keep tapping and it will gradually rotate back in place.

It takes a bit of time, but it works.

Nothing happening? Tap harder

Good advice!

If nothing still happening, get out the hammer.

Pete

ricko · February 11, 2020 6:17AM

I just leave them rotated... no OCD here, so no stress. Cheers, RickO

CoinRaritiesOnline · February 11, 2020 7:03AM

It's very easy to rotate a coin back to the correct orientation by tapping the side or corner of the slab on a table - if it starts to rotate the wrong way just start tapping the opposite corner. In all my years of doing this I've only encountered one or two that wouldn't budge.

ShipwreckCoinHunter · February 11, 2020 7:33AM

Maybe it’s a modern rattler. In My experience shaking it will flip him over.

BrettPCGS · February 12, 2020 3:29PM

@CoinRaritiesOnline said:
It's very easy to rotate a coin back to the correct orientation by tapping the side or corner of the slab on a table - if it starts to rotate the wrong way just start tapping the opposite corner. In all my years of doing this I've only encountered one or two that wouldn't budge.

Exact same for me as a dealer/collector. Temperature, sharpness of rims, and I'd assume some allowable tolerance down to the fraction of a millimeter by our gasket manufacturer all play a part in this occasionally happening. But I can't ever remember the gentle tapping trick not correcting it, typically for good.

Insider2 · February 12, 2020 3:34PM

Send it back through the mail so it rotates more.

Kove · February 12, 2020 3:35PM

I've never had a coin I couldn't rotate by tapping or with a sonicare.

On a few stubborn coins, I froze the holder prior to trying again. The rubber gasket shrinks more than the metal coin and it rotates easier.

What do you do with a coin like this that has rotated in its holder, and it is not an old rattler

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