What do you do with a coin like this that has rotated in its holder, and it is not an old rattler

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BUFFNIXX
BUFFNIXX Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited February 10, 2020 4:00PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Say you are looking to by an ms66 1913-s type one buffalo nickel and you run across this coin.
What do you do, pass or consider it? Is it possible to get the coin rotated back to normal. OK you could just send it in for
reholdering but then what would you do if the coin had the “green bean” on it? We are all used to seeing this on
the old original Rattler slabs from pcgs but not a newer holder. I thought the newer holders eliminated this problem.

Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"

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  • Cameonut
    Cameonut Posts: 7,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I start with the easy method. I press my dry Sonicare toothbrush case against the slab, sometimes that works to rotate the coin.
    If that doesn't work, I rap a lower corner repeatedly against a sticky note pad to get results.

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  • lkeigwin
    lkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You can try this. Often it works. Sometimes not.
    Lance.

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  • asheland
    asheland Posts: 24,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Check this one out! :D

    In fairness, they were all wonky with rotated dies. ;)

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  • winesteven
    winesteven Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @BUFFNIXX said:
    Say you are looking to by an ms66 1913-s type one buffalo nickel and you run across this coin.
    What do you do, pass or consider it? Is it possible to get the coin rotated back to normal. OK you could just send it in for
    reholdering but then what would you do if the coin had the “green bean” on it?

    PCGS will retain the same cert number upon reholdering (to play it safe, request that on the submission form). Then send it to CAC, and for only $3, they’ll AUTOMATICALLY reapply the sticker. Naturally, you’ll have round trip shipping.

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  • Outhaul
    Outhaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That is the rare and elusive 40° obverse and reverse rotated coin. Great find!

    :#

  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    hold it by the bottom left corner, then gently [not too gently] tap it on a table.

    Keep tapping and it will gradually rotate back in place.

    It takes a bit of time, but it works.

    Nothing happening? Tap harder

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • Jimnight
    Jimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Good luck!

  • BuffaloIronTail
    BuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Treashunt said:
    hold it by the bottom left corner, then gently [not too gently] tap it on a table.

    Keep tapping and it will gradually rotate back in place.

    It takes a bit of time, but it works.

    Nothing happening? Tap harder

    Good advice!

    If nothing still happening, get out the hammer. ;)

    Pete

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I just leave them rotated... no OCD here, so no stress. :D;) Cheers, RickO

  • CoinRaritiesOnline
    CoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭✭
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    It's very easy to rotate a coin back to the correct orientation by tapping the side or corner of the slab on a table - if it starts to rotate the wrong way just start tapping the opposite corner. In all my years of doing this I've only encountered one or two that wouldn't budge.

    John Agre

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  • ShipwreckCoinHunter
    ShipwreckCoinHunter Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Maybe it’s a modern rattler. In My experience shaking it will flip him over.

  • BrettPCGS
    BrettPCGS Posts: 159 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @CoinRaritiesOnline said:
    It's very easy to rotate a coin back to the correct orientation by tapping the side or corner of the slab on a table - if it starts to rotate the wrong way just start tapping the opposite corner. In all my years of doing this I've only encountered one or two that wouldn't budge.

    Exact same for me as a dealer/collector. Temperature, sharpness of rims, and I'd assume some allowable tolerance down to the fraction of a millimeter by our gasket manufacturer all play a part in this occasionally happening. But I can't ever remember the gentle tapping trick not correcting it, typically for good.

    Brett Charville --- I work at PCGS

  • Insider2
    Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Send it back through the mail so it rotates more. >:)

  • Kove
    Kove Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭✭
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    I've never had a coin I couldn't rotate by tapping or with a sonicare.

    On a few stubborn coins, I froze the holder prior to trying again. The rubber gasket shrinks more than the metal coin and it rotates easier.

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