Feedback request on 1877 1c Proof.....

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Kindred4u
Kindred4u Posts: 22 ✭✭
edited February 20, 2020 6:05PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Another hidden gem of mine, but asking for feedback given the issue.
(I understand a picture makes it more difficult to gauge).....

NGC certified PF65 RB
1. Proof, but is this high enough for a Caneo status?
2. Does PF65 look to be accurate

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  • ShipwreckCoinHunter
    ShipwreckCoinHunter Posts: 1,990 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2020 2:36PM
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    Wow

    😱😱😱😱

  • ironmanl63
    ironmanl63 Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I do not see any cameo contrast in those photos.
    No way to grade from those photos.

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Are we looking at a picture of a computer screen?

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  • Kindred4u
    Kindred4u Posts: 22 ✭✭
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    Yes, as the coin is locked away. I will see if I can get a better picture up, but all I could find for now.

  • ChrisH821
    ChrisH821 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    If you already have the picture on your computer just upload it here. You can drag and drop into the text area.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • Kindred4u
    Kindred4u Posts: 22 ✭✭
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  • Kindred4u
    Kindred4u Posts: 22 ✭✭
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  • Kindred4u
    Kindred4u Posts: 22 ✭✭
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  • Kindred4u
    Kindred4u Posts: 22 ✭✭
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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The coin doesn’t look even remotely close to deserving a Cameo designation. And is the case with most Proof coins, pictures don’t allow for meaningful grade guesses.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Cameonut
    Cameonut Posts: 7,436 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not even close to cameo, sorry to say.

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  • Kkathyl
    Kkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 8, 2020 7:31PM
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    Here

    Best place to buy !
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  • 2dueces
    2dueces Posts: 6,870 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very nice coin.

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  • MFeld
    MFeld Posts: 17,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Kkathyl said:
    Here a pic from PCGS site

    Business strike to Proof comparisons are largely apples to oranges. And the former are typically far easier to assess based on images.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • Kkathyl
    Kkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @MFeld said:

    @Kkathyl said:
    Here a pic from PCGS site

    Business strike to Proof comparisons are largely apples to oranges. And the former are typically far easier to assess based on images.

    True but that’s the point. Can’t see the picture to tell what coin if only 900 and the same reverse dies used on regular strike why hide the Cert #

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  • Kindred4u
    Kindred4u Posts: 22 ✭✭
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    It was recommended by local numismatic dealers to hide the cert to preserve the integrity of the graded coin so as to not allow for any possible chance of the coin being devalued based on all of the discussions or forgeries to devalue us coins going on.

  • Crypto
    Crypto Posts: 4,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Cameo also needs mirrors which that doesn’t have. If it had the shallow N I would think UNC

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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    A nice IHC... however, not even close to cameo. I am confused over your statement about discussions devaluing coins...it makes no sense... the coin is judged on grade/quality, and sometimes the slab generation comes into the pricing - as well as a sticker....The individuals making that statement are - IMO - fearful of honest analysis of the products they are offering - which, in that case, are likely over hyped. Cheers, RickO

  • astrorat
    astrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not a cameo, based on the images.

    That's an odd comment from your local dealers and an even odder explanation.

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  • lkenefic
    lkenefic Posts: 9,518 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It's definitely a proof... the shallow "N" on the reverse of business strikes gives that away, but as others have said, it doesn't appear to be remotely CAM from the images provided...

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