@Alltheabove76 said:
To my eye it does not look uncirculated. But, I suppose it must be the strike. But, if someone handed that to me I would think its VF lol
Strike weakness in the ear area is sometimes misconstrued as "wear". Without the presence of much luster it can be hard to judge a weakly struck unc from a circulated coin.
A better question might be "why did someone have that graded".
@Alltheabove76 said:
To my eye it does not look uncirculated. But, I suppose it must be the strike. But, if someone handed that to me I would think its VF lol
A better question might be "why did someone have that graded".
Because TPGs were new and exciting and they had some coins lying around in a drawer perhaps?
That type of toning gets into the details of the devices and with flat lighting can make the coin look worn. I’m sure the coin has more luster and stronger details (albeit not a full strike) than the photos show.
If this were guess the grade, I would have said VF30. It has relatively clean surfaces interesting toning which may have swayed the graders. I would purchase it for half asking price!
Because a professional coin grader graded it ms63 and knew a weak strike when he saw it? For me it is a coin that would be very confusing and difficult to grade. Perhaps points were added for toning.
please remember that the coin has been in the holder for 30 years and it's a good bet that when it was submitted it didn't look like that, probably much whiter with some color towards the rim. that has resulted in loss of apparent luster and the slab is pretty beat up, obscuring the coin and adding to the negative eye appeal.
I would imagine that if we could see it as it looked when first encapsulated, 30 years hence, everyone would be tripping over themselves about how undergraded it was.
Certainly not the rainbow tones as the ad says. I’m hoping it looks better in person. It was from the era when things were a bit more technically graded. Market graded, I would expect it to drop in grade a bit. Not a coin I’d want in my collection personally.
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As opposed to what grade?
Looks like it doesn't have a whole lot of luster, a 62 wouldn't have surprised me either.
See the big honking scratch on the cheek?
To my eye it does not look uncirculated. But, I suppose it must be the strike. But, if someone handed that to me I would think its VF lol
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Excellent question.... I would grade it 60 or 61 from the picture....Cheers, RickO
Strike weakness in the ear area is sometimes misconstrued as "wear". Without the presence of much luster it can be hard to judge a weakly struck unc from a circulated coin.
A better question might be "why did someone have that graded".
Because TPGs were new and exciting and they had some coins lying around in a drawer perhaps?
Strange coin indeed..............but it is in a nice holder.
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That type of toning gets into the details of the devices and with flat lighting can make the coin look worn. I’m sure the coin has more luster and stronger details (albeit not a full strike) than the photos show.
Not totally uncommon for this date to have a weak strike, there are a couple in coinfacts that have this look at this grade.
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These are notorious for very weak strike. The scratch on the cheek might be on the plastic, can't tell. I'm inclined to think they got it right.
If this were guess the grade, I would have said VF30. It has relatively clean surfaces interesting toning which may have swayed the graders. I would purchase it for half asking price!
Because a professional coin grader graded it ms63 and knew a weak strike when he saw it? For me it is a coin that would be very confusing and difficult to grade. Perhaps points were added for toning.
Looks like a 63 to me.
please remember that the coin has been in the holder for 30 years and it's a good bet that when it was submitted it didn't look like that, probably much whiter with some color towards the rim. that has resulted in loss of apparent luster and the slab is pretty beat up, obscuring the coin and adding to the negative eye appeal.
I would imagine that if we could see it as it looked when first encapsulated, 30 years hence, everyone would be tripping over themselves about how undergraded it was.
Certainly not the rainbow tones as the ad says. I’m hoping it looks better in person. It was from the era when things were a bit more technically graded. Market graded, I would expect it to drop in grade a bit. Not a coin I’d want in my collection personally.