can anyone tell me what ive got here

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  • Aotearoa
    Aotearoa Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wait for it...

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • ballistic_kennedy
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    A mirror?

    Excellent transaction with: ffcoins, Proofmorgan, fivecents, MorganMan94

  • morgandollar1878
    morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I will just keep it simple and say that it is not an error.

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  • Smudge
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    Nothing much.

  • Aotearoa
    Aotearoa Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And there it was...

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • It wouldnt be a 1959 brockage

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Welcome to the forum @Lardogmillionaire.

    Maybe. A round someone placed/hammered an imprint onto; made from a mold...; made in the Far East....

    Not a US Mint error cent.

    Reading references:

    http://www.error-ref.com/brockage-full

    http://www.error-ref.com/brockage-counterbrockage_combination_8_ways/

    Crop your pics, fingers and such are distracting.

  • Then why is the lincoln Memorial ghosted in the background. N i work for a living so yes my hands get dirty.

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Brokerage or not it’s far too damaged for any numismatic premium. May not even be able to spend it. If it’s even a cent minted by the U.S. Mint.

    IMO

  • CRH4LIFE
    CRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭
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    Common CU humor and banter. Most of our population works for a living. Ncluding many members of this forum ;) > @Lardogmillionaire said:

    Then why is the lincoln Memorial ghosted in the background. N i work for a living so yes my hands get dirty.

  • jmlanzaf
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    @Lardogmillionaire said:
    Then why is the lincoln Memorial ghosted in the background. N i work for a living so yes my hands get dirty.

    It's probably a "sandwich coin". You take two coins and press them together in a vise. The Lincoln head from the second coin gets imprinted in reverse onto the back of the 1st coin. The Memorial is "ghosted" because you've pressed a new image over the top of it.

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • MedalCollector
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    Wow. In no way shape or form would I consider this an obvious sandwich or damaged coin. I cannot believe that so many forum members would rush to condemn this coin based on those photos.

    I think there is a possibility that this is a genuine US Mint error coin (a mirror brockage error). While it is worn and has some scrapes/nicks, ruling this out as a non-error is premature, in my opinion.

    Take a look at this one, for example:
    https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/unexpanded-mirror-brockages-require-special-c.html

    I just want to give this one a chance (not saying I’m right and maybe my phone screen is too small for my eyes!). Your thoughts?

    @errormaven
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  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2020 4:56AM
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    Okay:
    PMD

    Because:
    The first [normal] obverse is a 1956 { ? on the 6, the last digit is not clear} D.

    The inverted image has no mintmark.

    Sorry but impossible

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • ricko
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    @Lardogmillionaire ....Welcome aboard.... your coin has been tampered with by someone... not the mint....looks like they wanted to make a two headed coin for flipping....not an error coin. Cheers, RickO

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2020 7:09AM
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    @GoldenEgg said:
    Wow. In no way shape or form would I consider this an obvious sandwich or damaged coin. I cannot believe that so many forum members would rush to condemn this coin based on those photos.

    I think there is a possibility that this is a genuine US Mint error coin (a mirror brockage error). While it is worn and has some scrapes/nicks, ruling this out as a non-error is premature, in my opinion.

    Take a look at this one, for example:
    https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/unexpanded-mirror-brockages-require-special-c.html

    I just want to give this one a chance (not saying I’m right and maybe my phone screen is too small for my eyes!). Your thoughts?

    @errormaven
    @SullivanNumismatics
    @FredWeinberg
    @jonathanb

    The problem there are more images of “how-to’s”... on the “wonderful” internet of things...

    Next is for the OP @Lardogmillionaire to to provide clear focused pics and hi-res pics.

    Blurry images are conducive to a blurry opinions.

    Where is the MM as @Treashunt mentioned?

    My blurry opinion - need more caffeine.

  • davewesen
    davewesen Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    does the backwards side Lincoln and numbers/letters go into the coin, or raise up out of the coin?

  • Goes into

  • jonathanb
    jonathanb Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The pictures are intriguing but the condition is so horrid it's going to be hard for anyone to give a firm opinion.

    Can you get a weight in grams?

  • 1Mike1
    1Mike1 Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @FredWeinberg or @CaptHenway may be able to tell us.

    "May the silver waves that bear you heavenward be filled with love’s whisperings"

    "A dog breaks your heart only one time and that is when they pass on". Unknown
  • Jeffnlu
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    OP, how did you acquire this?

  • SullivanNumismatics
    SullivanNumismatics Posts: 893 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2020 8:30AM
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    It looks authentic to me. If it weighs 3.1 grams, it is authentic.

    It would likely be a 1st strike brockage (likely from a struck split planchet cent which failed to be ejected from the reverse die's surfaces when it was struck, which is why the brockage is weak in some areas on this coin.)

    www.sullivannumismatics.com Dealer in Mint Error Coins since 2003.
  • CaptHenway
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    Just saw this thread. Genuine Mint error,

    A late state (so thinned out) reverse die cap was struck against the obverse die and got a new but incomplete obverse strike. This planchet fed in and got a normal obverse strike plus a first strike brockage from the new obverse design on the reverse cap.

    TD

    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • I will try to get weight. Beins its a 59 with memorial n not wheat would that make it valuable.

  • Is trading this penny for 4 morgan dollars worth it

  • TurtleCat
    TurtleCat Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Lardogmillionaire said:
    Is trading this penny for 4 morgan dollars worth it

    It would depend on the Morgans and their grade and which you value more. Personally, if I were in your position, I would not. But only you can answer that.

  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The normal reverse for a 1959 cent would be the Lincoln Memorial, not the wheat back.

    Hard to say what the value is of your coin with the minor circulation, but it is impossible to say what the four silver dollars are worth without knowing date, mint mark and condition.

    Personally, I would rather have the error cent. As errors go it is pretty cool. You can get a million circulated silver dollars if you have the money.

    TD

    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • jedm
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    Finally we get to see a real error coin in one of these newbie threads! Yay. Welcome to the forum.

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Needs authentication.

  • I will get it authenticated as soon as possible. Where should i send n how much you think.

  • Hemispherical
    Hemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Since we are on a PCGS forum:

    https://www.pcgs.com/

    And for options:

    https://www.ngccoin.com/

    https://www.anacs.com/

    https://www.icgcoin.com/

    Others may have other options.

  • tincup
    tincup Posts: 5,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    congrats on the nice find! Goes to show there are some real ones out there.

    ----- kj
  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Hemispherical said:
    Needs authentication.

    I politely disagree, considering the condition of the piece, which speaks for itself. The knowledgeable error people would buy it as is.

    Professional Numismatist, Retired. 55 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner of the PNG's 2026 Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,216 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    My tongue is dirtier than your finger o:) ....and my errors aren’t as cool.

  • TwoSides2aCoin
    TwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,216 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Is the revers bustals> @CaptHenway said:

    @Hemispherical said:
    Needs authentication

    I politely disagree, considering the condition of the piece, which speaks for itself. The knowledgeable error people would buy it as is.

    I respectfully see both sides , but personally think experts ought to see it in hand, as a benefit to the hobby .

  • So what would it be worth??? If i were to sell

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