@Lardogmillionaire said:
Then why is the lincoln Memorial ghosted in the background. N i work for a living so yes my hands get dirty.
It's probably a "sandwich coin". You take two coins and press them together in a vise. The Lincoln head from the second coin gets imprinted in reverse onto the back of the 1st coin. The Memorial is "ghosted" because you've pressed a new image over the top of it.
Wow. In no way shape or form would I consider this an obvious sandwich or damaged coin. I cannot believe that so many forum members would rush to condemn this coin based on those photos.
I think there is a possibility that this is a genuine US Mint error coin (a mirror brockage error). While it is worn and has some scrapes/nicks, ruling this out as a non-error is premature, in my opinion.
@Lardogmillionaire ....Welcome aboard.... your coin has been tampered with by someone... not the mint....looks like they wanted to make a two headed coin for flipping....not an error coin. Cheers, RickO
@GoldenEgg said:
Wow. In no way shape or form would I consider this an obvious sandwich or damaged coin. I cannot believe that so many forum members would rush to condemn this coin based on those photos.
I think there is a possibility that this is a genuine US Mint error coin (a mirror brockage error). While it is worn and has some scrapes/nicks, ruling this out as a non-error is premature, in my opinion.
It looks authentic to me. If it weighs 3.1 grams, it is authentic.
It would likely be a 1st strike brockage (likely from a struck split planchet cent which failed to be ejected from the reverse die's surfaces when it was struck, which is why the brockage is weak in some areas on this coin.)
A late state (so thinned out) reverse die cap was struck against the obverse die and got a new but incomplete obverse strike. This planchet fed in and got a normal obverse strike plus a first strike brockage from the new obverse design on the reverse cap.
TD
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
@Lardogmillionaire said:
Is trading this penny for 4 morgan dollars worth it
It would depend on the Morgans and their grade and which you value more. Personally, if I were in your position, I would not. But only you can answer that.
The normal reverse for a 1959 cent would be the Lincoln Memorial, not the wheat back.
Hard to say what the value is of your coin with the minor circulation, but it is impossible to say what the four silver dollars are worth without knowing date, mint mark and condition.
Personally, I would rather have the error cent. As errors go it is pretty cool. You can get a million circulated silver dollars if you have the money.
TD
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
I politely disagree, considering the condition of the piece, which speaks for itself. The knowledgeable error people would buy it as is.
Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
Lardogmillionaire
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Wait for it...
Smitten with DBLCs.
A mirror?
Excellent transaction with: ffcoins, Proofmorgan, fivecents, MorganMan94
I will just keep it simple and say that it is not an error.
Nothing much.
You are such an optimist!
Excellent transaction with: ffcoins, Proofmorgan, fivecents, MorganMan94
Dirty fingers.
And there it was...
Smitten with DBLCs.
It wouldnt be a 1959 brockage
Welcome to the forum @Lardogmillionaire.
Maybe. A round someone placed/hammered an imprint onto; made from a mold...; made in the Far East....
Not a US Mint error cent.
Reading references:
http://www.error-ref.com/brockage-full
http://www.error-ref.com/brockage-counterbrockage_combination_8_ways/
Crop your pics, fingers and such are distracting.
Then why is the lincoln Memorial ghosted in the background. N i work for a living so yes my hands get dirty.
Brokerage or not it’s far too damaged for any numismatic premium. May not even be able to spend it. If it’s even a cent minted by the U.S. Mint.
IMO
Common CU humor and banter. Most of our population works for a living. Ncluding many members of this forum
> @Lardogmillionaire said:
It's probably a "sandwich coin". You take two coins and press them together in a vise. The Lincoln head from the second coin gets imprinted in reverse onto the back of the 1st coin. The Memorial is "ghosted" because you've pressed a new image over the top of it.
Wow. In no way shape or form would I consider this an obvious sandwich or damaged coin. I cannot believe that so many forum members would rush to condemn this coin based on those photos.
I think there is a possibility that this is a genuine US Mint error coin (a mirror brockage error). While it is worn and has some scrapes/nicks, ruling this out as a non-error is premature, in my opinion.
Take a look at this one, for example:
https://www.coinworld.com/news/precious-metals/unexpanded-mirror-brockages-require-special-c.html
I just want to give this one a chance (not saying I’m right and maybe my phone screen is too small for my eyes!). Your thoughts?
@errormaven
@SullivanNumismatics
@FredWeinberg
@jonathanb
Okay:
PMD
Because:
The first [normal] obverse is a 1956 { ? on the 6, the last digit is not clear} D.
The inverted image has no mintmark.
Sorry but impossible
BHNC #203
@Lardogmillionaire ....Welcome aboard.... your coin has been tampered with by someone... not the mint....looks like they wanted to make a two headed coin for flipping....not an error coin. Cheers, RickO
The problem there are more images of “how-to’s”... on the “wonderful” internet of things...
Next is for the OP @Lardogmillionaire to to provide clear focused pics and hi-res pics.
Blurry images are conducive to a blurry opinions.
Where is the MM as @Treashunt mentioned?
My blurry opinion - need more caffeine.
does the backwards side Lincoln and numbers/letters go into the coin, or raise up out of the coin?
Goes into
The pictures are intriguing but the condition is so horrid it's going to be hard for anyone to give a firm opinion.
Can you get a weight in grams?
@FredWeinberg or @CaptHenway may be able to tell us.
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OP, how did you acquire this?
It looks authentic to me. If it weighs 3.1 grams, it is authentic.
It would likely be a 1st strike brockage (likely from a struck split planchet cent which failed to be ejected from the reverse die's surfaces when it was struck, which is why the brockage is weak in some areas on this coin.)
Just saw this thread. Genuine Mint error,
A late state (so thinned out) reverse die cap was struck against the obverse die and got a new but incomplete obverse strike. This planchet fed in and got a normal obverse strike plus a first strike brockage from the new obverse design on the reverse cap.
TD
I will try to get weight. Beins its a 59 with memorial n not wheat would that make it valuable.
Is trading this penny for 4 morgan dollars worth it
It would depend on the Morgans and their grade and which you value more. Personally, if I were in your position, I would not. But only you can answer that.
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The normal reverse for a 1959 cent would be the Lincoln Memorial, not the wheat back.
Hard to say what the value is of your coin with the minor circulation, but it is impossible to say what the four silver dollars are worth without knowing date, mint mark and condition.
Personally, I would rather have the error cent. As errors go it is pretty cool. You can get a million circulated silver dollars if you have the money.
TD
Finally we get to see a real error coin in one of these newbie threads! Yay. Welcome to the forum.
Needs authentication.
I will get it authenticated as soon as possible. Where should i send n how much you think.
Since we are on a PCGS forum:
https://www.pcgs.com/
And for options:
https://www.ngccoin.com/
https://www.anacs.com/
https://www.icgcoin.com/
Others may have other options.
congrats on the nice find! Goes to show there are some real ones out there.
I politely disagree, considering the condition of the piece, which speaks for itself. The knowledgeable error people would buy it as is.
My tongue is dirtier than your finger
....and my errors aren’t as cool.
Is the revers bustals> @CaptHenway said:
I respectfully see both sides , but personally think experts ought to see it in hand, as a benefit to the hobby .
So what would it be worth??? If i were to sell