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1993 double ear double chin
acadien
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pocket change in less than 5 minutes another double ear. 
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I don't see it, but you did the research and I'll believe you!
good eye.
bob
This is pocket change. You were right about that!
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What is it that you don't see?
Thanks, can"t find the class variety ?
OK you are probably referring to the other 1985 double ear penny. I posted 10 minutes after posted the 1993.
Sounds like something Yogi Berra would say
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Thanks 3 found in less than 1 hrs. I just post a 1993D penny
I don’t see a Doubled Ear variety. I see MD
The Lincoln Cent Resouce,
Is dam close, will also use vista and Wexler's varieties. Later
Fivaz Stanton Numbers:
Old FS-1-043 New FS-01-1997-101
Breen: Not Listed
Coneca: 1-O-IV+VIII
Crawford: CDDO-001
Wexler: WDDO-001
Coppercoins: 1997P-1DO-00
Three doubled ears from pocket change in less than an hour. Yep, that's about right.
Send...them...in... to be slabbed and show us the results. They will be quite the trophy.
pocket change, not really am from Canada, I don't suppose that there's any record for these years?
I see the doubling you are referring to ... did not see the '93 listed in your posted references though... Cheers, RickO
It cant be "close." It is a different year. This is mechanical doubling not a "doubled ear" which happened on the 1984 cent and to a lesser degree the 1997 you referenced.
Minor doubled dies can happen, but unless you have an original 1993 roll finding 3 varieties in minutes is highly improbable. In fact, it is indicative of the viewer seeing what he wants to see like images in the clouds.
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Theses penny, 85, 93 and 93D come from thousand of the US mix penny accumulated over years. > @ricko said:
I have email the 3 coin 85, 93 and 93D to Ken Potter await for answers
Hello RickO
Did you see the 85, 93 and 93D that was posted with double ear.
Not everyone agrees on double ear. What do you think. Regard,
As stated already it is not a doubled ear variety. Your diagnostics do not match. They are also not the same. It is Machine Doubling. Your coin also does not have that variety the 97 picture above is a clear representation of the variety. Besides most listings on some of those sites are for minor and have been argued with both owners of the site. You seem to have tunnel vision. . __> @acadien said:
No offense - but this is just an honest opinion...
I think you are missing the point on "double ears" and are approaching the issue backward.
The ones in the references have double ears because they were minted from doubled dies. That is why they are worthwhile and potentially valuable.
Your coins may (or may not) have what appear to be "doubled ears" but that does not automatically make them the same as the known errors. The vast majority of "doubling" that people see is MD, which has no value. I trust that (most of the time) you are seeing some kind of doubling or other anomaly, but that does not make it an error.
Instead of scrutinizing every single coin for doubling etc. and then going to the references if you think you found one to see if it is listed, here is what I would do if I were roll searching or scrutinizing loose coins:
1) have a list of known die varieties (date and mintmark). When you come across those dates/MMs, scrutinize those for the known die varieties (doubled dies, interesting die gouges, etc.)
2) for all other coins (all other dates/MMs), just quickly look for obvious errors, such as clips, cuds, double strikes, off centers, etc.
The chances of you making a new discovery are extremely unlikely. If you are looking through a box if current or last year's coins and you think you might be the first to find a die variety, then go for it. But if you are looking at older coins, leave the work to others who have come before you and appreciate that they have done the tedious work of finding and documenting the varieties.
There was a young collector here a few years ago who found a few of the major modern Lincoln cent varieties by using the above approach. He focused his efforts on the known dates and mintmarks and searched lots and lots of coins looking for those.
There are those who will say that it is your right to scrutinize every single coin you encounter, and of course they are correct. But it is a tremendous waste of time and effort.
Just my opinion.
Opinion accepted JBK, appreciate your expertise and yes you are right. Doing likewise I will definitely same huge amount of my time and everyone else time.
Best Regard,
Thank you
Don't get upset! You are doing your due diligence here by researching what you find, and trying to back it up. That is admirable in itself.
It is WAY MORE than most others would do. Don't lose your spirit.
All of this is helping you learn.
Pete
Thanks Pete agree A+
You already have:
1) a good eye for detail
2) very good photo skills
You are in a great position to make real discoveries if you focus your efforts.
I agree. Looks like a bit of strike doubling.
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Just so I can train my eye is this LIBERTY double
This place can be rougher than boot camp but the answers to your queries will make you a better collector. Hang in there.
LIBERTY in your image is not doubled.
It's fine.
Pete
From your image I say no. They do have “ Modern” Doubled Dies. But on those you will see a small or decent visible spread on the characters with some portions of split serifs showing. You have good chances at finding one of the 2011 DDO’s Check wexlers site and go from there. I have found a couple myself when I was interested in smaller die variety’s. But a good starting point for your taste I believe. If not you can PM me and I will send you a 1972 DDO and let you find the Die Markers and figure out which die state it is
and > @acadien said:
To my knowledge there isn’t a single coin with a drastic Doubled Die since 1995
In my first struggles as a collector I shifted through 10’s of thousands of Lincoln Cents and seen plenty of Strike Doubled coins with this exact look, Also notice the SD is seen not just on the ear or the chin and neck of the portrait. . It is found other places as well. I can see how this would be interpreted as a doubles ear variety seeing how minor the 97 and other supposed double ears are. In my opinion the 97 barley makes the cut. The 84 is what a doubles ear should look like. > @jmlanzaf said:
Yea, the 84 is the real one A+
I like that, let do it, rougher than boot camp but time to play harder...
Machine doubling (a.k.a. machine doubling, machine doubling damage, machine damage doubling, mechanical doubling, strike doubling, shift doubling, ejection doubling) (ES July/Aug 2006; CW 3/15/10, 7/17/17)
http://www.error-ref.com/part-vi-striking-errors/
How about this 1996 ddo that I once owned?
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About Push doubling..;.
Is this the one you want me to find the variety?
I was just showing an example of a significant variety after 1995. It is a very rare 1996 doubled die obverse that primarily shows doubling on the date and word "Trust."
I no longer own it, and I'm no longer actively collecting varieties.
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A strong CW spread from a pivot at about 9:00 ?
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I didn't loose my spirit and just got promoted to Collector's,
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