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1993 double ear double chin

acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭
edited January 23, 2020 9:37PM in U.S. Coin Forum

pocket change in less than 5 minutes another double ear.








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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,789 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see it, but you did the research and I'll believe you!

    good eye.

    bob :)

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:
    I don't see it, but you did the research and I'll believe you!

    good eye.

    bob :)

    What is it that you don't see?

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @DCW said:
    This is pocket change. You were right about that!

    Thanks, can"t find the class variety ?

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @AUandAG said:
    I don't see it, but you did the research and I'll believe you!

    good eye.

    bob :)

    OK you are probably referring to the other 1985 double ear penny. I posted 10 minutes after posted the 1993.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @acadien said:

    What is it that you don't see

    Sounds like something Yogi Berra would say

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

    --- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice pics!

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    Thanks 3 found in less than 1 hrs. I just post a 1993D penny

  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    I don’t see a Doubled Ear variety. I see MD

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    The Lincoln Cent Resouce,

    Is dam close, will also use vista and Wexler's varieties. Later

    Fivaz Stanton Numbers:
    Old FS-1-043 New FS-01-1997-101
    Breen: Not Listed
    Coneca: 1-O-IV+VIII
    Crawford: CDDO-001
    Wexler: WDDO-001
    Coppercoins: 1997P-1DO-00

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,716 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2020 2:57AM

    Three doubled ears from pocket change in less than an hour. Yep, that's about right. :)

    Send...them...in... to be slabbed and show us the results. They will be quite the trophy.

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    pocket change, not really am from Canada, I don't suppose that there's any record for these years?

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see the doubling you are referring to ... did not see the '93 listed in your posted references though... Cheers, RickO

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @acadien said:
    The Lincoln Cent Resouce,

    Is dam close, will also use vista and Wexler's varieties. Later

    Fivaz Stanton Numbers:
    Old FS-1-043 New FS-01-1997-101
    Breen: Not Listed
    Coneca: 1-O-IV+VIII
    Crawford: CDDO-001
    Wexler: WDDO-001
    Coppercoins: 1997P-1DO-00

    It cant be "close." It is a different year. This is mechanical doubling not a "doubled ear" which happened on the 1984 cent and to a lesser degree the 1997 you referenced.
    Minor doubled dies can happen, but unless you have an original 1993 roll finding 3 varieties in minutes is highly improbable. In fact, it is indicative of the viewer seeing what he wants to see like images in the clouds.

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    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @DCW said:

    @acadien said:
    The Lincoln Cent Resouce,

    Is dam close, will also use vista and Wexler's varieties. Later

    Fivaz Stanton Numbers:
    Old FS-1-043 New FS-01-1997-101
    Breen: Not Listed
    Coneca: 1-O-IV+VIII
    Crawford: CDDO-001
    Wexler: WDDO-001
    Coppercoins: 1997P-1DO-00

    It cant be "close." It is a different year. This is mechanical doubling not a "doubled ear" which happened on the 1984 cent and to a lesser degree the 1997 you referenced.
    Minor doubled dies can happen, but unless you have an original 1993 roll finding 3 varieties in minutes is highly improbable. In fact, it is indicative of the viewer seeing what he wants to see like images in the clouds.

    Theses penny, 85, 93 and 93D come from thousand of the US mix penny accumulated over years. > @ricko said:

    I see the doubling you are referring to ... did not see the '93 listed in your posted references though... Cheers, RickO

    I have email the 3 coin 85, 93 and 93D to Ken Potter await for answers

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I see the doubling you are referring to ... did not see the '93 listed in your posted references though... Cheers, RickO

    Hello RickO
    Did you see the 85, 93 and 93D that was posted with double ear.

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @JBK said:
    Three doubled ears from pocket change in less than an hour. Yep, that's about right. :)

    Send...them...in... to be slabbed and show us the results. They will be quite the trophy.

    Hello JBK,

    Not everyone agrees on double ear. What do you think. Regard,

  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    As stated already it is not a doubled ear variety. Your diagnostics do not match. They are also not the same. It is Machine Doubling. Your coin also does not have that variety the 97 picture above is a clear representation of the variety. Besides most listings on some of those sites are for minor and have been argued with both owners of the site. You seem to have tunnel vision. . __> @acadien said:

    @DCW said:

    @acadien said:
    The Lincoln Cent Resouce,

    Is dam close, will also use vista and Wexler's varieties. Later

    Fivaz Stanton Numbers:
    Old FS-1-043 New FS-01-1997-101
    Breen: Not Listed
    Coneca: 1-O-IV+VIII
    Crawford: CDDO-001
    Wexler: WDDO-001
    Coppercoins: 1997P-1DO-00

    It cant be "close." It is a different year. This is mechanical doubling not a "doubled ear" which happened on the 1984 cent and to a lesser degree the 1997 you referenced.
    Minor doubled dies can happen, but unless you have an original 1993 roll finding 3 varieties in minutes is highly improbable. In fact, it is indicative of the viewer seeing what he wants to see like images in the clouds.

    Theses penny, 85, 93 and 93D come from thousand of the US mix penny accumulated over years. > @ricko said:

    I see the doubling you are referring to ... did not see the '93 listed in your posted references though... Cheers, RickO

    I have email the 3 coin 85, 93 and 93D to Ken Potter await for answers

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    Opinion accepted JBK, appreciate your expertise and yes you are right. Doing likewise I will definitely same huge amount of my time and everyone else time.

    Best Regard,
    Thank you

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @acadien said:
    Opinion accepted JBK, appreciate your expertise and yes you are right. Doing likewise I will definitely same huge amount of my time and everyone else time.

    Best Regard,
    Thank you

    Don't get upset! You are doing your due diligence here by researching what you find, and trying to back it up. That is admirable in itself.

    It is WAY MORE than most others would do. Don't lose your spirit.

    All of this is helping you learn.

    Pete

    Thanks Pete agree A+ :)

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,716 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @acadien said:
    Opinion accepted JBK, appreciate your expertise and yes you are right. Doing likewise I will definitely same huge amount of my time and everyone else time.

    Best Regard,
    Thank you

    You already have:

    1) a good eye for detail

    2) very good photo skills

    You are in a great position to make real discoveries if you focus your efforts. :)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,719 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    I don’t see a Doubled Ear variety. I see MD

    I agree. Looks like a bit of strike doubling.

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    Just so I can train my eye is this LIBERTY double

  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,028 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @acadien said:
    Opinion accepted JBK, appreciate your expertise and yes you are right. Doing likewise I will definitely same huge amount of my time and everyone else time.

    Best Regard,
    Thank you

    Don't get upset! You are doing your due diligence here by researching what you find, and trying to back it up. That is admirable in itself.

    It is WAY MORE than most others would do. Don't lose your spirit.

    All of this is helping you learn.

    Pete

    This place can be rougher than boot camp but the answers to your queries will make you a better collector. Hang in there.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    LIBERTY in your image is not doubled.

    It's fine.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    From your image I say no. They do have “ Modern” Doubled Dies. But on those you will see a small or decent visible spread on the characters with some portions of split serifs showing. You have good chances at finding one of the 2011 DDO’s Check wexlers site and go from there. I have found a couple myself when I was interested in smaller die variety’s. But a good starting point for your taste I believe. If not you can PM me and I will send you a 1972 DDO and let you find the Die Markers and figure out which die state it is :) and > @acadien said:

    Just so I can train my eye is this LIBERTY double

  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    To my knowledge there isn’t a single coin with a drastic Doubled Die since 1995

  • CRH4LIFECRH4LIFE Posts: 849 ✭✭✭✭

    In my first struggles as a collector I shifted through 10’s of thousands of Lincoln Cents and seen plenty of Strike Doubled coins with this exact look, Also notice the SD is seen not just on the ear or the chin and neck of the portrait. . It is found other places as well. I can see how this would be interpreted as a doubles ear variety seeing how minor the 97 and other supposed double ears are. In my opinion the 97 barley makes the cut. The 84 is what a doubles ear should look like. > @jmlanzaf said:

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    I don’t see a Doubled Ear variety. I see MD

    I agree. Looks like a bit of strike doubling.

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    In my first struggles as a collector I shifted through 10’s of thousands of Lincoln Cents and seen plenty of Strike Doubled coins with this exact look, Also notice the SD is seen not just on the ear or the chin and neck of the portrait. . It is found other places as well. I can see how this would be interpreted as a doubles ear variety seeing how minor the 97 and other supposed double ears are. In my opinion the 97 barley makes the cut. The 84 is what a doubles ear should look like. > @jmlanzaf said:

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    I don’t see a Doubled Ear variety. I see MD

    I agree. Looks like a bit of strike doubling.

    Yea, the 84 is the real one A+

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    From your image I say no. They do have “ Modern” Doubled Dies. But on those you will see a small or decent visible spread on the characters with some portions of split serifs showing. You have good chances at finding one of the 2011 DDO’s Check wexlers site and go from there. I have found a couple myself when I was interested in smaller die variety’s. But a good starting point for your taste I believe. If not you can PM me and I will send you a 1972 DDO and let you find the Die Markers and figure out which die state it is :) and > @acadien said:

    Just so I can train my eye is this LIBERTY double

    I like that, let do it, rougher than boot camp but time to play harder... :)

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Machine doubling (a.k.a. machine doubling, machine doubling damage, machine damage doubling, mechanical doubling, strike doubling, shift doubling, ejection doubling) (ES July/Aug 2006; CW 3/15/10, 7/17/17)

    http://www.error-ref.com/part-vi-striking-errors/

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    To my knowledge there isn’t a single coin with a drastic Doubled Die since 1995

    How about this 1996 ddo that I once owned?

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    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @Hemispherical said:
    Machine doubling (a.k.a. machine doubling, machine doubling damage, machine damage doubling, mechanical doubling, strike doubling, shift doubling, ejection doubling) (ES July/Aug 2006; CW 3/15/10, 7/17/17)

    http://www.error-ref.com/part-vi-striking-errors/

    About Push doubling..;.

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @DCW said:

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    To my knowledge there isn’t a single coin with a drastic Doubled Die since 1995

    How about this 1996 ddo that I once owned?

    @DCW said:

    @CRH4LIFE said:
    To my knowledge there isn’t a single coin with a drastic Doubled Die since 1995

    How about this 1996 ddo that I once owned?

    Is this the one you want me to find the variety?

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,407 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I was just showing an example of a significant variety after 1995. It is a very rare 1996 doubled die obverse that primarily shows doubling on the date and word "Trust."
    I no longer own it, and I'm no longer actively collecting varieties.

    Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
    "Coin collecting for outcasts..."

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭
    edited January 25, 2020 7:35AM

    A strong CW spread from a pivot at about 9:00 ?

  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

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  • acadienacadien Posts: 635 ✭✭✭

    @gonzer said:

    @BuffaloIronTail said:

    @acadien said:
    Opinion accepted JBK, appreciate your expertise and yes you are right. Doing likewise I will definitely same huge amount of my time and everyone else time.

    Best Regard,
    Thank you

    Don't get upset! You are doing your due diligence here by researching what you find, and trying to back it up. That is admirable in itself.

    It is WAY MORE than most others would do. Don't lose your spirit.

    All of this is helping you learn.

    Pete

    This place can be rougher than boot camp but the answers to your queries will make you a better collector. Hang in there.

    I didn't loose my spirit and just got promoted to Collector's,

    This is such of honor, didn't think it was reachable. Perseverance an reliable teachers help me to keep going in this fabulous journey in the world of Collector's corner . TO all of those ho participated in my post.
    Thank you...

  • HemisphericalHemispherical Posts: 9,370 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @acadien said:
    Just got promoted to Collector.

    This is such of honor, didn't think it was reachable. Perseverance an reliable teachers help me to keep going in this fabulous journey in the world of Collector's corner . TO all of those ho participated in my post.
    Thank you...

    Congrats!

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