What were the most important numismatic developments of the decade?
BryceM
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The last 10 years have come and gone and now we head off again into the roaring 20s. Years from now, what will the hobby regard as the most significant developments from the teens?
Particular auctions, shows, important collections, TPGs, stickers, tastes, grading standards, commems, price trends, mint developments, hobby demographics, new discoveries, new books? What say you?
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The rise and acceptance of "stickers". I don't see this as a positive development. It just tells me that many collectors still can't grade or are not willing to put the effort into learning how.
I agree with @291fifth ...Stickers seem to be the innovation of the decade...Cheers, RickO
The first $10MM coin and the sale of the Pogue collection both seem to be landmark events of the past decade.
The rise of social media as a numismatic marketplace can't be ignored, either. I've bought and sold some decent stuff this way.
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Crashing prices in many segments of the market were most notable.
Anyone know when Mark Goodman’s book was first published? I’d consider widespread high-quality numismatic photography to be a product of the last decade. It was done previously for catalogs and such sure, but the way we buy and sell coins has really changed. It’s likely a 90% internet-driven business now, at least to collectors.
The change of personnel at PCGS was an important occurrence. The biggest ever coin show: 2016 FUN. The "super fakes" from China. Roger and Laura being banned from the forums!
Part of your answer leads me to wonder if perhaps you misread part of the OP’s question. It was “ What were the most important numismatic developments of the decade?” It wasn’t “What were the most important numismatic developments of the decade on this forum”. 😉
And even then...
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Agree with @Coinstartled
The collector coin market and the bullion coin market has been in the dumps since mid-2013. Yet I keep pouring money in. I must love collecting coins, or I must be really dense. A little bit of both.
This decade has seen a wealth of new and newly revised numismatic books of great and permanent value. At least we have that blessing.
2008.
ending production of the cent. Oh wait, that was Canada
What were the most important numismatic developments of the decade?
@Insider2 posted:
The change of personnel at PCGS.
The biggest ever coin show: 2016 FUN.
The "super fakes" from China.
As for "Roger and Laura being banned from the forums," this was an add on so those two know they are missed (at least by me) and not forgotten: If you were banned, I'd feel the same.
I can think of less than a dozen posting here I could say that about because there is a big difference in the way all of us can/do contribute to the forum. So, while "Lookie at my new coin" can be very entertaining...I'm not interested in how long your submission is taking at the ATS. However, this is an open forum and others will have different
interests.
Excellent new books (and free online web-books) on the Liberty Seated 20c, 50c and $1 (the 10c was prior to 2010).
http://www.lsccweb.org/Links.shtml
I'm trying to follow up with the 5c, but it won't be finished in the next 10 days.
Thanks to this forum, there has been a massive proliferation of parking lot error coins!
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Look forward to this book, your research has been thorough and important.
With respect to the numismatic market, I would have to say that I agree with one post above that the acceptance of CAC stickers has been the most signicant development. But I see that as a positive. Mostly, buy a coin without a bean online without seeing in hand, and you are risking money, mostly, buy a coin with a bean online without seeing in hand, and you are not risking money. That sez it all.
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The most "distracting" numismatic event of the last decade is/was? the frenzy over the 100 paper Mint Director's signatures on a relatively common (in 70 grade), 2019 S ERP silver eagle bullion coin.
What will the roaring Ryder 2020's bring? I actually cringe and lose sleep at the thought.
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I totally concur.
The internet sure has made Numismatics a much quicker study than in the past.
More Infomation and more experts on the net will continue this trend.
Not really sure there is a global/universal view of significant, but what comes to mind:
High def pics from cell phone
Numismatic flame-out of eBay - snarky way of saying, "eBay's transition to a numismatic retail site"
Counterfeits - note China is not the only offender, plenty of skullduggery on the home front
The loss of Teletrade and the rise of its make-over, Great Collections
The color = +1 phenomenon
$48 silver (not really a development, but a wild little ride nonetheless)
If we were all the same, the world would be an incredibly boring place.
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CAC
Sale of the Pogue collection
Formation of the Del Loy Hansen collection
Formation of the Tyrant collection
Breaking the $10 million level for a single coin
Discovery of the 4th 1854-S half eagle
Demise of Krause Publications
LIBERTY SEATED DIMES WITH MAJOR VARIETIES CIRCULATION STRIKES (1837-1891) digital album
@savitale Well, there have been recent very hopeful signs about Numismatic News. The SCWC are still in Limbo.
Tracking numbers
TrueView
Online auctions
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Trying to cover a few things that haven't been mentioned yet:
Founding and rise of Legend Auctions
Founding and rise of Great Collections
A major shift towards pricing decisions being based off auction records
W mint mark quarters (might be something we look back at 25 years from now as massive)
The effective end of eBay as a true auction platform
Major pushes by grading services into international waters
Brett Charville --- I work at PCGS
Shiny stickers, the rebirth of the weimans, premier/non-premier registries, modern 30K MS70 rarities, slabs that don't fit in either TPG boxes, solving the Omega mystery, waiting on Insiders 1899-O Mint error or PMD answer, drecks, widgets ect.
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From a historical perspective, I think the discovery that the Continental Currency Dollars are European medals is of great importance. Read more here:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/946694/continental-dollar-struck-in-europe-nn-article/p1
And dare I say the discovery of the first fully equipped Civil War sutler counterstamping kit?
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1029958/an-amazing-civil-war-relic-a-sutler-counterstamping-tool#latest
From a collector perspective, the creation of Dan Carr's Moonlight Mint fantasy overdate coins have created a new class of collectible.
I think this is very historic and a great achievement for the coin but the broader impact on the market is diminished a bit by the fact that no other coins have crossed that line and that the buyers were trying to hit that magic number when buying the coin. When the next few coins cross the line, the market will have changed.
Again, great coin and great price, but when will others follow suit?
don't we have 2020 left in the decade??
Technically or as popularly viewed?
Edited..... I just realized that I answered a question with a question. I HATE it when people do that.
Good point, but I don't think many of the answers will change. Maybe it's just as well to get on with it
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And the loss of their greatest champion, Eric P. Newman.
EPN was a great loss for the hobby. His collection was amazing. I loved that he not only had coins but had a ton of other things, like counterfeit detecting kits and not just one but a whole slew of them. Watching the auction of those was a treat.
I'm glad he left behind the Newman Numismatic Portal and great auction records on Heritage.
To me, the NNP ranks as one of the greatest accomplishments of the decade as well.
For me, finding, joining, participating and meeting a plethora of interesting numismatic characters on CU. Peace Roy
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Really enjoyed the discovery of the 1919P doubled die Mercury dime.
In the "New Discoveries" category one could include discovery of The Saddle Ridge Hoard. Trying to recall if there were any new major shipwreck discoveries as well during the past ten years, although the continued discovery of coins from the S.S. Central America would arguably qualify.
CAC
I am going to list a few of the suggestions made so far here and propose a few more. This is not a suggested order of importance, and they are lettered only so that later we might vote on them and rank them that way. Please continue to suggest more, especially game-changing books.
a. The Newman Numismatic Portal
b. The death of Eric P. Newman
c. The discovery of the Saddle Ridge Hoard.
d. The discovery of a new 1854-S $5
e. The discovery of the 1919 DDO dime
f. The denouement of the Continental Currency Dollars
g. The identification of the actual first coin struck for the United States of America
h. Stickers
i. The $10 million* coin
j. The (hopefully reversible) downfall of Krause Publications
k. The decline of print publications in general.
l. John Dannreuther's Proof Gold book, Vol. IV, Parts 1 & 2 https://www.translinesupply.com/dannreuther-united-states-proof-gold-volume-iv-parts-1-2-999896808.aspx
m. The Pogue Collection
n. The U.S. Mint veering dangerously near Third World gimmickry
The 1933 Double Eagles should at least be on the list. IMHO
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I don't want to be picky about such an intriguing item but it would need a set of letter, numeral and design punches as well as uniface stock to be fully functional.
No worry about being picky as it's a good to have more discussion. Since we're being picky, I think these are debatable, as we don't know the full history of this and there may be a matter of perspective. It appears you may be looking at this from a usage perspective while I'm looking at this from the perspective of how it was distributed or sold. This leads to the following differences:
From a usage perspective, it may be useful to conceive of a set as including punches and blanks but from the perspective of the device being sold or distributed at the time, it seems uncertain if punches and blanks would be included with the kit. By "fully equipped", I meant that key pieces that are intrinsic to the device, like the collar, aren't missing. Perhaps we're looking at this from 2 different perspectives?
Also, the dog tag stock for these doesn't actually seem to be uniface as it seems like the stencil pattern and some words are already struck into the piece. The stock for the Emancipation Day tokens, however, seem to be appropriately called uniface. What do you mean by design punches? I didn't notice any used on these.
Love the posts so free free to pick away