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1896-s Barber Half..........how to crack-out a $1500 profit from a newbie using sulfur

Step 1: Purchase an UNC details 1896-s Barber Half from Heritage for $1,140.
Step 2: Crack the coin out and artificially color it with sulfur.
Step 3: Say you found it in your 200 pottery barn safe and list it on eBay as Unc and omit the part of the prior cleaning and the fake toning you put on.
Step 4: Sell it for $2,700 and do NOT allow returns after the buyer finds out s/he's been taken.

https://coins.ha.com/itm/barber-half-dollars/half-dollars/1896-s-50c-cleaning-pcgs-genuine-secure-unc-details-ngc-census-0-40-and-0-1-pcgs-population-0-60-and-0-6-/a/1276-7819.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515#

https://ebay.com/itm/1896-S-Barber-Liberty-Silver-Half-Dollar-PERFECT-MS-Uncirculated-Great-pl-Date-/293255929030?nma=true&si=gOuEIFWKA6i5zUuypS5D4FtuxN4%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

I can only imagine what was going through the buyers mind when he found out he was scammed and left this negative feedback:

Offered free returns. Would not accept return when coin was deemed ungradable Buyer: i***d ( 258Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499) During past month
1896-S Barber Liberty Silver Half Dollar PERFECT MS Uncirculated. Great pl Date! (#293255929030)

Comments

  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...like Alec said it best...A Loser IS a Loser! ;)

  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We’ve seen the docktor before

    Coin looks blatant

    LCoopie = Les
  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,044 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How on earth does his feedback remain so high despite all the crapola he sells? Are people really that gullible?.....and stupid?

  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭

    Couldn't the buyer still return the coin despite the auction listing stating you cannot return? I thought I heard from others that you can still return a ebay coin despite that.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just an FYI, That coin has been sold at least 8 times for over 2K! I wonder how long ebay is going to continue refunding the fees from his obvious shill bidding. Surely he's not paying the Final Value Fees.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking at his sold items, apparently his customers have more money than brains

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • TroyWTroyW Posts: 42 ✭✭

    I want to ask him if the coin he is selling is the same coin sold by heritage auction last year and in the slim chance he answers and doesn't block me, then I would like to know who put it in the 200 year old safe...

    But why waste my time

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Unbelievable....this guy is a major scam artist.....Cheers, RickO

  • numbersmannumbersman Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭✭

    That's the kind of business model that will get you shot.

    Collector of numeral seals.That's the 1928 and 1928A series of FRNs with a number rather than a letter in the district seal. Owner/operator of Bottom Line Currency
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @numbersman said:
    That's the kind of business model that will get you shot.

    Coins are fun.

  • FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can we post is eBay user name? Or did I miss it somewhere in this thread?

  • FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FranklinHalfAddict said:
    Can we post is eBay user name? Or did I miss it somewhere in this thread?

    Just realized I can click the link to eBay. But for those that did not...
    ‘THEDOCKTER’ <— avoid that seller.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe in karma.

  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mkman123 said:
    Couldn't the buyer still return the coin despite the auction listing stating you cannot return? I thought I heard from others that you can still return a ebay coin despite that.

    I would go on eBay and INAD (item not as described) and SNAD(significantly not as described) the seller to get a return and have them eat all the shipping cost too. It doesn't matter if the seller accepts returns or not, a SNAD return claim will always be available to the buyer.

    The buyer clearly shouldn't be buying raw coins and the seller is clearly trying to catch a newbie...

  • How can you tell that the Heritage coin is the same as the one that would sold on eBay? Is there a definitive marking?

  • I see a few marks along the base of the neck that seem to match. Is there anything else?

  • Also a nick on the jaw. Yes, this seems conclusive.

  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭

    Selsun Blue

  • @cinclodes said:
    Also a nick on the jaw. Yes, this seems conclusive.


  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Blatantly AT.

  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,641 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2019 2:09PM

    Blatant AT indeed. Suckers are born every minute...what a shame.

    If the Buyer was a newbie, he may be lost forever as a collector.
    If the Buyer was experienced, what on earth was he/she thinking???

    Dave

    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's no Santa Claus in the coin business kids... unless your a dealer rocking a long white beard and Hawaiian shirt in the summer. Which is only close...

  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good to see the doc getting a negative feedback.

  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinJP said:
    There's no Santa Claus in the coin business kids... unless your a dealer rocking a long white beard and Hawaiian shirt in the summer. Which is only close...

    The Mint played Santa Claus today for some.

  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A while back, I asked thedockter how he slept at night. This was his response:

    “After all of my operations, I would say struggle almost nightly.
    Al”

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭

    LOL A bunch of old coins found in the safe of a 200 year old ceramic store, but the brick and architecture says 1940s-50s. :D


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  • Wahoo554Wahoo554 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BBN said:
    LOL A bunch of old coins found in the safe of a 200 year old ceramic store, but the brick and architecture says 1940s-50s. :D

    That’s the best part. It’s as if he isn’t even trying. Kind of puts the reasonable reliance element of a fraud claim in doubt.

  • TroyWTroyW Posts: 42 ✭✭
    edited November 15, 2019 6:24AM

    Yes I see lots of similarities to the heritage coin, at least a dozen or so but then again working in Research and Development, my job is to find consistencies and nconsistencies in suspect materials.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 15, 2019 1:23PM

    It’s amazing how they bid that up, a raw coin.

    MS60 CDN Bid $2000, MS63 Bid $2750. 17 bidders / 40 bids. Unbelievable

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No question it has been shill bid up 8 or 10 times!

    @Cougar1978 said:
    It’s amazing how they bid that up, a raw coin.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 15, 2019 1:25PM

    I bet so - shocking, feel sorry for buyer.

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 15, 2019 2:03PM

    I don't think it's being purchased, If it has it has been returned many times!

    @Cougar1978 said:
    I bet so - shocking, feel sorry for buyer.

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