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Counter Stamped Coins - How Did They Make Them
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Counter Stamped Coins - How Did They Make Them
I would think they used a punch and a heavy hammer but what did they set the coin on to protect the 'reverse' or did they not care about damaging the other side of the coin?
Just Wondering.
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A press and a piece of wood in this method ?
https://youtu.be/eXDfhKLsQfI
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I got this one yesterday in change.
@ifthevamzarockin .... Any idea what that means?? Cheers, RickO
No clue
@ricko @ifthevamzarockin
Kolob is a star or planet described in the sacred text of the Latter Day Saint movement. Reference to Kolob is found in the Book of Abraham, a work that is traditionally held by several Latter Day Saint denominations as having been translated from an Egyptian papyrus scroll by Joseph Smith, the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement. According to this work, Kolob is the heavenly body nearest to the throne of God. While the Book of Abraham refers to Kolob as a "star",[1] it also refers to planets as "stars",[2] and, therefore, some Mormon commentators consider Kolob to be a planet.[3] The body also appears in Mormon culture, including a reference to Kolob in an LDS
Detail of Facsimile No. 2 (the Hypocephalus of Sheshonq). Reference numeral 1 represents Kolob according to Joseph Smith. Critics interpret this as an altered figure of a creator god.
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"MorMon On Kolob" ???????
"MeetMe On Kolob" ?????
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@1630Boston....Thank you for that information. I was going to google Kolob...just had not got to it yet...Cheers, RickO
KOLOB CANYON - Zion National Park Backpacking
https://youtu.be/KvN-8bE0iJM
Looks like a god place toe metal detect.
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Sorry, I thought it was "MM ON KOLOB" but now I see it is "IM ON KOLOB"
Makes sense, I guess
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And it's a Utah State Quarter, all is good now
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How could you be on Kolob but be down on earth counterstamping coins?
I will watch the video later, but most counterstampers I know use a sledge/drilling hammer of 3 pounds or so, and a small anvil - maybe 15 pounds.
You can't be in two places at the same time ??
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I was just worried about 'damage' to the opposite side of the coin.
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If you don't mind me asking, what region of the country are you in? These are part of a counterstamping project that I am aware of, but the exact location is a bit of a mystery,
BTW - the slogans on he coins are usually a pun or cryptic reference to either the state's name, the design on the coin, or something associated with the particular state. Looks like yours has been figured out.
Oh, yes. there will be damage.
When you hit the punch with the hammer the metal will travel downward until enough resistance is provided to allow the face of the punch to indent the metal. If you are using a small stamp on a huge/thick coin, there may be little or even no visible damage to the other side (think a 1/16" letter stamped on a Churchill Crown). In most cases, though, the metal will be pushed downward until the area on the other side of the coin comes into contact with the anvil. If you are counterstamping opposite an area that has very high relief, then the distance it must be pushed to get to the surface will be minimal and therefore less distortion.
Your bigger problem is not the damage/flattening to the opposite side, but the "cupping" or bending of the coin that can happen. In this scenario, you can just turn the coin over on the anvil and pound it flat with the hammer (or a smaller one). That will cause a little more distortion/flattening, so you can use a small length of wood (such as 1/2" by 1/2" x something like 2", for example, or slightly larger than the 1/2" dimensions) and treat it as if it was a punch, and place one end against the bulge and hit the other end with a regular hammer, and that will get the coin flat again with no additional distortion.
Or so I've heard...
You have a counterstamp punch made, and you hit the coin with it. You will end up with a flat spot on the opposite side.
I am sure that some counterstampers used a gig, which is a machine that repeats same motion over and over again.
@JBK Western states......Rocky Mountain area.
Thx...that fits my suspicions about origin.
Zion is a National Park and thus off limits to metal detecting.
bob