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Can peripheral toning be artificially induced?

Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

I think we can conclude from a recent poll that many on CU believe that peripheral toning virtually ALWAYS occurs when something is in touch with or in close proximity to the entire circumference of the coins edge. I happen to agree 100% based on past experience including personal experimentation! B)o:)
Now, let's take this discussion deeper with another poll. This is anonymous.

Can peripheral toning be artificially induced?

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe I've seen this on a number of cookie cutter Unc. Capped Bust Dollars that 'mysteriously' appeared around 2003 and 2004. It's a sad fact, but a very good coin doctor can do just about anything.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can it be induced? Or, can it be induced so that it looks natural?

  • TradesWithChopsTradesWithChops Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Can it be induced? Or, can it be induced so that it looks natural?

    Id assume the poll is referencing the latter

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, it can.... and done properly, it will grade and sell....Cheers, RickO

  • AercusAercus Posts: 381 ✭✭✭✭

    Yes, and quickly at that!

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 22, 2019 10:36AM

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Can it be induced? Or, can it be induced so that it looks natural?

    Please don't over analyse a simple question. You are getting way ahead of the survey. In fact, you may have already confused one poster.

  • TradesWithChopsTradesWithChops Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭

    I want to hear from this person:"

    Yes, and I've done it with great results.
    6% 1 vote

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Can it be induced? Or, can it be induced so that it looks natural?

    Please done over analyse a simple question. You are getting way ahead of the survey. In fact, you may have already confused one poster.

    Who's confused? Other than me, that is.

    I have no doubt that I could personally make an 1804 dollar. I'm also sure that even my dog could tell it was fake. I don't think it is overanalyzing to ask the question I asked.

    I once told my surgeon sister-in-law that I'm sure I could do open heart surgery, because the theory is pretty simple. You just wouldn't want to be one of my first couple dozen experiments...er...patients.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Insider2 said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    Can it be induced? Or, can it be induced so that it looks natural?

    Please don't over analyse a simple question. You are getting way ahead of the survey. In fact, you may have already confused one poster.

    Who's confused? Other than me, that is.

    THIS was posted to help you: "I'd assume the poll is referencing the latter." I suspect your comment also confused others who only read the discussion.

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In other late-breaking news, Generalissimo Franco is still dead. >:)

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fact - tarnish is tarnish... whether occurring due to age/environment or accelerated due to induced environment... It is ALL Post Mint Damage.... yes, even the pretty colors. Tarnish is considered a sign of originality, that is why this damage is accepted. It is surface degradation due to environmental conditions. There is no 'artificial' tarnish.... just time accelerated tarnish. Cheers, RickO

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said: "Fact - tarnish is tarnish... whether occurring due to age/environment or accelerated due to induced environment... It is ALL Post Mint Damage.... yes, even the pretty colors. Tarnish is considered a sign of originality, that is why this damage is accepted. It is surface degradation due to environmental conditions. There is no 'artificial' tarnish.... just time accelerated tarnish. Cheers, RickO

    I have a copy of your book! :)

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you place a coin in the center of a plate of Skittles and add water you can Taste the Peripheral Rainbow ;)

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  • TexastTexast Posts: 1,899 ✭✭✭✭

    It is clear that the Mint has done this, the only example I can state for certain is the 1997 Botanical Gardens Silver Dollar found in the coin and currency set, on the Obverse the Roses are artificially covered with something that has cast them with a light pink redish tone.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2...."I have a copy of your book!" As well you should..... ;) Cheers, RickO

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Broadstruck said:
    If you place a coin in the center of a plate of Skittles and add water you can Taste the Peripheral Rainbow ;)

    Enter this in a photo contest! Terrific!

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 23, 2019 10:35AM

    @ricko said:
    @Insider2...."I have a copy of your book!" As well you should..... ;) Cheers, RickO

    I don't agree with everything in it Mr. W (aka Ricko).

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 .... Sometimes I disagree with myself.... :D Cheers, RickO

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