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Grade opinion on 1893-s Morgan

jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

Would like your grade opinion on this 1893-s ? Be conservative, and tough!

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  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a nice VF20

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  • ElectricityElectricity Posts: 318 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks VG10-F12 IMO
    Nice even wear, possibly an older cleaning?

  • HallcoHallco Posts: 3,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Assuming it's authentic and problem free...I'm at F12

  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,279 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with @morgandollar1878–

    it looks vf20 to me

    Higashiyama
  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,817 ✭✭✭✭✭

    12-15.

  • KccoinKccoin Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    20

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭

    15

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    15

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F15. I'd be more concerned with the authenticity.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First impression - VF20... in hand, maybe a tad less....Cheers, RickO

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go 15, the cheek marks oxidation. Honest dirty looking oxidation with an unfortunate apparent second bout of circulation long ago.

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F15, nice crusty look to it.

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok thanks for your opinions. First its authentic, 93-s morgans are one of the easiest to verify. I was able to verify it from the photo before I even bought the coin. Quick story, another dealer, not a coin dealer (antique dealer) bought some antiques from a lady along with a small bag of silver dollars , he paid her 10 bucks a piece for them, later realizing he had a good one !
    offered it to me at a redbook price, which I said no and counter offered at a fair wholesale price, and bought it. I have a customer who is interested in it for his morgan set, I bought it figuring a solid f-15, and can flip it to him for a few hundred bucks profit , but If it will holder at pcgs 20, id be leaving quite a few dollars on the table.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With the VF uptick would try a few times.

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's a solid F-15, but definitely has a shot at VF-20 (based on the images).

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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Talk about a liner between a 15 + a 20!

  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So if it is about a $5000 coin, how much does the lady, who was paid $10, for it, get?

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,634 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F12-15

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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭✭✭

    vf

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Im pretty sure the dealer that bought it wont give her anything if you want to know the truth. I don't know the lady, the dealer is not even from my town, his shop is 2 hours from here.

  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F15, and looks authentic.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice Fine-15 with possible claims to VF - depends on direct examination.

    But -- with grade inflation it might be MS-63. :)

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20, maybe 25. There's much more separation in the hair, cotton leaves, and cotton blossoms than there is for a F15. I'd take an acetone-soaked swab and remove some of the crud that's on the high points.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F15 Nice one!

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From the image a F15. If I saw it in hand and it made the right impression, I would at least consider 20

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  • NicNic Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF25....great example!

    Dave

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is a tweener but I would not be surprised with a 20 based on the pics

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it at VF20, possible F15, but there's no way I'd sell a coin like that raw. You're leaving a ton of $ on the table if it happens to go higher. The downside risk is of submitting it is minimal. If it comes back F15, you're still good.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20, shot F15.

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tried to cheat by looking at graded pieces sold through Heritage. Found a F15 that looked nicer than this one and a VF20 that looked worse. So- I don't know.

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    F15 congrats! Still need one.

  • LeroyLeroy Posts: 186 ✭✭✭

    @mustangmanbob said:
    So if it is about a $5000 coin, how much does the lady, who was paid $10, for it, get?

    $10

  • santinidollarsantinidollar Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vf20

  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin. Too bad about the elderly woman getting robbed. That guy will get what he deserves in the end.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My first impression is VF20 as well.

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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭

    Great coin for the customer's Morgan set. If asked to be conservative, I agree with F-15. The lady who originally sold it will never see more than the $10 she got for it.

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭

    @TennesseeDave said:
    Nice coin. Too bad about the elderly woman getting robbed. That guy will get what he deserves in the end.

    Wish I could believe that, but...

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,867 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20 , 100% legit. It isn’t crazy to think 15 but the original skin carries it

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭

    Agreed with Crypto about the OS.

  • CCGGGCCGGG Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2, 2019 8:55AM

    Probably a 10 but a shot at 12 from PCGS or NGC. 15 to 20 from ANACS or other lower tier grading services. Rev is much better than the obv, especially the rims. Pictures aren't that detailed but it looks legit from what I can see.

  • slider23slider23 Posts: 660 ✭✭✭✭

    VF20 and a shot at 25

  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a coin that should be sent to one of the top 2 TPGs. Anything else is just plain not good for the buyer, the seller, or the collecting community.

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  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,776 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Originals best your right, they never seem to get whats coming.

    Not this guy, as I said he is in Wilmington. But there is another guy in town, who has been slamming people for years, all he has done is gotten rich from hosing people.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 14,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    VF20, shot F15.> @jabba said:

    You guys are brutal I was thinking 35 anyway it’s nice and crusty love ❤️ it

    Or maybe you’re too loose. 😉 Please show us a picture of one that’s graded 35 (or even 30) by a major TPG and is worn to the extent that this one is ?

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  • Alltheabove76Alltheabove76 Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭

    Here is a CAC VF20. Looks about right.

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