When is a White Elephant Not a White Elephant? Ultra Rare American Buffalo $50 Gold PCGS Error.

ctf_error_coins · July 28, 2019 6:10AM

When the White Elephant portrays an American Icon on an American Icon.

Introducing the "Crying Indian" .......

ctf_error_coins · July 28, 2019 6:26AM

PerryHall · July 28, 2019 6:58AM

I always smile when I see that so called crying Indian. He is an actor and is a second generation Italian American and that tear is actually glycerin.

keets · July 28, 2019 7:23AM

Perry, all that is true but the message was important, well delivered and well received.

growing up along Lake Erie in the early 1960's we used to collect pop bottles and it was commonplace in the entire Country to see trash thrown out like it is at the Chief's feet in that commercial. Lake Erie was polluted like most other American bodies of water, not by garbage as most people think, but by industrial waste and detergents, nitrogen based stuff that caused algae blooms which depleted the Lake of oxygen. wildlife was affected and to see a Deer in Ohio was unusual.

because of commercials like the one shown, awareness and people like Ralph Nader we now have the EPA and people are keenly aware of littering and polluting. the result --- Lake Erie is one of the BEST Walleye lakes in the entire World, we have a four deer limit during hunting season and people are pretty conscious of littering. the environment as a whole is a lot, lot cleaner.

Perry, have you ever seen the movie or read the book "Grey Owl??"

SoCalBigMark · July 28, 2019 7:26AM

Walleye is the best fish ever. We used to go up to Meta Lake, only way in and out was float plane.

PerryHall · July 28, 2019 7:37AM

@keets said:
Perry, all that is true but the message was important, well delivered and well received.

You missed my point. They could have found a real American Indian for this commercial.

steveben · July 28, 2019 7:38AM

that ad and the one that blamed me for forest fires (only I can prevent them?) are depressing memories from my childhood.

cardinal · July 28, 2019 7:39AM

@keets said:
Perry, all that is true but the message was important, well delivered and well received.

growing up along Lake Erie in the early 1960's we used to collect pop bottles and it was commonplace in the entire Country to see trash thrown out like it is at the Chief's feet in that commercial. Lake Erie was polluted like most other American bodies of water, not by garbage as most people think, but by industrial waste and detergents, nitrogen based stuff that caused algae blooms which depleted the Lake of oxygen. wildlife was affected and to see a Deer in Ohio was unusual.

because of commercials like the one shown, awareness and people like Ralph Nader we now have the EPA and people are keenly aware of littering and polluting. the result --- Lake Erie is one of the BEST Walleye lakes in the entire World, we have a four deer limit during hunting season and people are pretty conscious of littering. the environment as a whole is a lot, lot cleaner.

Perry, have you ever seen the movie or read the book "Grey Owl??"

Yes! All of that is true. In fact, the pollution got so bad that the Cuyahoga River caught fire!

keets · July 28, 2019 8:15AM

indeed, the river was on fire, a depressing memory from that era. though I don't go to the "Flats" as often as I did when I still drank, they have cleaned it up nicely. not really upscale, but some nice clubs, bars, restaurants and concert venues. people come up the Cuyahoga and dock along the wall to eat and party. it's a nice experience compared to when the place was clogged with Industry.

aside to Perry --- I got your point, that's why I asked about Grey Owl. his real name was Archie Belaney. he immigrated to Canada from Great Britain in the early 1920's, just after WWI, and settled in upper Canada. as a child he was fascinated with what was coming out of America regarding Native Americans, so he found work at a resort guiding hunters. he was "adopted" by a Tribe and learned their way of life to the point where he lived a dual-lifestyle and had everyone fooled, they thought he was Ojibway.

although he trapped and hunted he became obsessed with the fact that the environment was changing and Beaver were becoming harder and harder to trap. he viewed them as a key factor in a healthy ecosystem and wrote a book, "Pilgrims in the Wild" which brought him unwanted recognition. he lectured and toured, going as far as being invited to Great Britain for lectures and an Audience with the Queen. this proved to be his undoing as a small town reporter exposed his true identity, but not until after he had died.

Archie Belaney/Grey Owl understood Human impact on the environment 30-40 years before anything was really done about it. just like Iron Eyes Cody, born Espera Oscar de Corti, he placed the cause ahead of himself.

the book "Pilgrims in the Wild" is worth reading and the movie "Grey Owl" is well worth watching.

ctf_error_coins · July 28, 2019 10:40AM

When I first saw this coin, I couldn't freaking believe it as it is perfect. I googled the crying Indian image and said bingo. I remembered the ad clearly from my childhood.

I had to have it, no question. I nuke bid to be sure to win this Unique Iconic Icon.

FullHorn · July 28, 2019 10:50AM

I also occasionally nuke bid.

TwoSides2aCoin · July 28, 2019 11:06AM

And now.... a speared bison nickel would compliment that.

ctf_error_coins · July 28, 2019 11:09AM

@TwoSides2aCoin said:
And now.... a speared bison nickel would compliment that.

I am not a variety guy, But I do carry this one for its awesome eye appeal and high grade.

This off center, however, is extraordinarily rare......

SiriusBlack · July 28, 2019 12:08PM

@ErrorsOnCoins Curious, I think I understand Struck Through meaning something was between the coin and the die when it was made, but why is in not embedded still? Does the foreign stuff often fall out after minting, leaving only the cavity?

ctf_error_coins · July 28, 2019 12:47PM

@SiriusBlack said:
@ErrorsOnCoins Curious, I think I understand Struck Through meaning something was between the coin and the die when it was made, but why is in not embedded still? Does the foreign stuff often fall out after minting, leaving only the cavity?

Yes, more often than not. Retained struck In examples are much rarer.

SiriusBlack · July 28, 2019 12:50PM

I didn’t realize there were different terms for with and without

blitzdude · July 28, 2019 1:40PM

Looks like the mint shorted you a little gold. Hopefully they didn't charge full price. Did you happen to weigh it before you has it slabbed? Just curious how much was missing.

Zoins · July 28, 2019 1:49PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
When I first saw this coin, I couldn't freaking believe it as it is perfect. I googled the crying Indian image and said bingo. I remembered the ad clearly from my childhood.

I had to have it, no question. I nuke bid to be sure to win this Unique Iconic Icon.

This one has a great look to it. Will it become your icon coin?

ctf_error_coins · July 28, 2019 3:04PM

@Zoins said:

@ErrorsOnCoins said:
When I first saw this coin, I couldn't freaking believe it as it is perfect. I googled the crying Indian image and said bingo. I remembered the ad clearly from my childhood.

I had to have it, no question. I nuke bid to be sure to win this Unique Iconic Icon.

This one has a great look to it. Will it become your icon coin?

Well I did sell my Avatar

ricko · July 28, 2019 3:30PM

That is amazing... gold errors are not common...especially major one's on large gold...Thanks for showing us...Cheers, RickO

ctf_error_coins · July 28, 2019 4:03PM

@ricko said:
That is amazing... gold errors are not common...especially major one's on large gold...Thanks for showing us...Cheers, RickO

You are correct about errors on gold coins being very rare. This is the largest error that I have seen on a gold coin. The super cool thing is that error is on an American Buffalo (not an AGE) and has perfect placement. The stars really lined up on this one

SiriusBlack · July 28, 2019 4:08PM

The TV has a much different look to it as well.

ctf_error_coins · July 28, 2019 4:12PM

@SiriusBlack said:
The TV has a much different look to it as well.

LMAO as I did not see that TV. I always do my own work.

I tried very hard NOT to get that type of image as the struck thru wanted to go shinny.

I customize my lighting for each and every coin.

Zoins · July 28, 2019 4:17PM

@ErrorsOnCoins said:

@SiriusBlack said:
The TV has a much different look to it as well.

LMAO as I did not see that TV. I always do my own work.

I tried very hard NOT to get that type of image as the struck thru wanted to go shinny.

I customize my lighting for each and every coin.

The extra effort was worthwhile. It's always nice to see different looks for the same coin.

Here's the TrueView.

SiriusBlack · July 28, 2019 4:19PM

Your’s definitely shows a more dramatic look to the error. The TV looks shallower I think.

BuffaloIronTail · July 29, 2019 5:48AM

@TwoSides2aCoin said:
And now.... a speared bison nickel would compliment that.

A Speared GOLD Bison one would really do the trick!

Pete

Jimnight · July 29, 2019 6:46AM

Nice.

asheland · July 29, 2019 11:35AM

Very cool error!

jabba · July 29, 2019 12:30PM

It’s amazing a .9999 gold buffalo got out the door with that error pretty cool 😎

When is a White Elephant Not a White Elephant? Ultra Rare American Buffalo $50 Gold PCGS Error.

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