So far all I've seen is PL gold Liberties. A few dealers I know were tucking nice pieces away with the idea that PL would be added at some point. It looks like it might have paid off.
@Elcontador said:
Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.
PL coins tend to fetch higher premiums in higher grades so I don't think it is a waste.
@Elcontador said:
Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.
I have seen quarters from the same time frame and some are definitely more PL than others in the same grade so I think it's good to distinguish those that are noteworthy.
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Here’s a cool one which @cameonut2011 sold me a couple years ago. It’s graded MS67 by our host.
I plan on submitting it for regrade once I rack up a few more coins for a submission.
@Elcontador said:
Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.
PL coins tend to fetch higher premiums in higher grades so I don't think it is a waste.
Have to disagree. People knowledgeable about this series aren't going to pay a premium for a look which is common. If it's a DMPL coin, those aren't common, and I can see a premium for these late dated Seated Halves in MS 65 or better.
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@Elcontador said:
Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.
PL coins tend to fetch higher premiums in higher grades so I don't think it is a waste.
Have to disagree. People knowledgeable about this series aren't going to pay a premium for a look which is common. If it's a DMPL coin, those aren't common, and I can see a premium for these late dated Seated Halves in MS 65 or better.
@BloodMan said:
This double eagle is graded by NGC as MS64*PL
I love the cameo effect. I wonder in this case whether the star is for the added cameo contrasts or whether the fields border on DMPL, or both for that matter.
There are a decent number of Lib $20 coins that have popped up in the Population Report as PL (nearly 30 across all three types). Anyone own one or have pictures of one?
Well, it looks like the True View style photography doesn't show mirrors as well at least for a couple of the examples. If it does, some of these are truly head scratchers (from Coin Facts and not mine):
@BloodMan said:
This double eagle is graded by NGC as MS64*PL
I have said it before and Ill say it again, your set is the one out of everyone on the board I would like to see the most in person. That is saying something too
@BloodMan said:
This double eagle is graded by NGC as MS64*PL
I have said it before and Ill say it again, your set is the one out of everyone on the board I would like to see the most in person. That is saying something too
I agree. If it was my coin, I would have sent it back to NGC for a designation review. The mirrors look borderline DPL/DMPL if not fully DMPL. The star would still be deserved for the cameo contrasts. Unfortunately PCGS will not recognize DMPL for these yet.
Collecting prooflike gold is very challenging because for most dates less than 1% of the population qualify for the designation (based on NGC data). I suspect PCGS will be at least equally stringent. Additionally, the reflective surfaces tend to exaggerate even minor surface abrasions so finding examples with good eye appeal takes time.
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Nothing in the pop report as far as I can tell.
Later, Paul.
Might be a bit early for this.....wait a couple of months and they should start to appear. Cheers, RickO
How about then coins you think will grade with the PL designation.
So far all I've seen is PL gold Liberties. A few dealers I know were tucking nice pieces away with the idea that PL would be added at some point. It looks like it might have paid off.
I'd like to see some of these, too.
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I think this will grade PL!
And this one!
That could be helpful as well especially if the coin is subsequently submitted. This will also give us an idea of what standards PCGS is using.
Very nice! How deep is the reflectivity of the fields in hand?
On the 1892 in hand you would swear it is a proof with deep watery fields! The 1907 is not that far behind.
May have been struck with retired proof dies.
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Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
PL coins tend to fetch higher premiums in higher grades so I don't think it is a waste.
I have seen quarters from the same time frame and some are definitely more PL than others in the same grade so I think it's good to distinguish those that are noteworthy.
I think PL came to this one year issue around 2011/2012. Only 1500 in 69PL and another 1500 in 70PL.
Here’s a cool one which @cameonut2011 sold me a couple years ago. It’s graded MS67 by our host.

I plan on submitting it for regrade once I rack up a few more coins for a submission.
Have to disagree. People knowledgeable about this series aren't going to pay a premium for a look which is common. If it's a DMPL coin, those aren't common, and I can see a premium for these late dated Seated Halves in MS 65 or better.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
DMPL is still reserved for Morgans only.
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This double eagle is graded by NGC as MS64*PL
Very nice!
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I love the cameo effect. I wonder in this case whether the star is for the added cameo contrasts or whether the fields border on DMPL, or both for that matter.
I think this will get a PL. sending it in soon. My finger is approx 4” to 6” away from the coin.


Love your $20 Bloodman
There are a decent number of Lib $20 coins that have popped up in the Population Report as PL (nearly 30 across all three types). Anyone own one or have pictures of one?
Well, it looks like the True View style photography doesn't show mirrors as well at least for a couple of the examples. If it does, some of these are truly head scratchers (from Coin Facts and not mine):
Loving this gold!
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beautiful gold indeed
I have said it before and Ill say it again, your set is the one out of everyone on the board I would like to see the most in person. That is saying something too
11.5$ Southern Dollars, The little “Big Easy” set
I agree. If it was my coin, I would have sent it back to NGC for a designation review. The mirrors look borderline DPL/DMPL if not fully DMPL. The star would still be deserved for the cameo contrasts. Unfortunately PCGS will not recognize DMPL for these yet.
@BloodMan
Beautiful coin. Your seconds are better looking than most of our firsts.
Thanks for the comments.
Collecting prooflike gold is very challenging because for most dates less than 1% of the population qualify for the designation (based on NGC data). I suspect PCGS will be at least equally stringent. Additionally, the reflective surfaces tend to exaggerate even minor surface abrasions so finding examples with good eye appeal takes time.