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Post Your Non-Morgan PCGS PL Coins

cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

I'm eager to see what is coming out now that PCGS extended the PL designation as of 7-1-2019.

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  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nothing in the pop report as far as I can tell.


    Later, Paul.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Might be a bit early for this.....wait a couple of months and they should start to appear. Cheers, RickO

  • fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about then coins you think will grade with the PL designation.

    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd like to see some of these, too.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fastfreddie said:
    How about then coins you think will grade with the PL designation.

    That could be helpful as well especially if the coin is subsequently submitted. This will also give us an idea of what standards PCGS is using.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 18, 2019 5:19PM

    @ironmanl63 said:
    I think this will grade PL!


    And this one!

    Very nice! How deep is the reflectivity of the fields in hand?

  • ironmanl63ironmanl63 Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On the 1892 in hand you would swear it is a proof with deep watery fields! The 1907 is not that far behind.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ironmanl63 said:
    On the 1892 in hand you would swear it is a proof with deep watery fields! The 1907 is not that far behind.

    May have been struck with retired proof dies.

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.

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    "Sou Mangueira......."
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:
    Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.

    PL coins tend to fetch higher premiums in higher grades so I don't think it is a waste.

  • fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:
    Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.

    I have seen quarters from the same time frame and some are definitely more PL than others in the same grade so I think it's good to distinguish those that are noteworthy.

    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
  • PhillyJoePhillyJoe Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭✭

    I think PL came to this one year issue around 2011/2012. Only 1500 in 69PL and another 1500 in 70PL. :)

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  • ilikemonstersilikemonsters Posts: 767 ✭✭✭✭

    Here’s a cool one which @cameonut2011 sold me a couple years ago. It’s graded MS67 by our host.
    I plan on submitting it for regrade once I rack up a few more coins for a submission.

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @Elcontador said:
    Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.

    PL coins tend to fetch higher premiums in higher grades so I don't think it is a waste.

    Have to disagree. People knowledgeable about this series aren't going to pay a premium for a look which is common. If it's a DMPL coin, those aren't common, and I can see a premium for these late dated Seated Halves in MS 65 or better.

    "Vou invadir o Nordeste,
    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador said:

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @Elcontador said:
    Many of the low mintage Seated Halves minted from 1879 - 1891 did not circulate and are PL. For these coins, the designation is a waste of money.

    PL coins tend to fetch higher premiums in higher grades so I don't think it is a waste.

    Have to disagree. People knowledgeable about this series aren't going to pay a premium for a look which is common. If it's a DMPL coin, those aren't common, and I can see a premium for these late dated Seated Halves in MS 65 or better.

    DMPL is still reserved for Morgans only.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BloodMan said:
    This double eagle is graded by NGC as MS64*PL

    Very nice!

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BloodMan said:
    This double eagle is graded by NGC as MS64*PL

    I love the cameo effect. I wonder in this case whether the star is for the added cameo contrasts or whether the fields border on DMPL, or both for that matter.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are a decent number of Lib $20 coins that have popped up in the Population Report as PL (nearly 30 across all three types). Anyone own one or have pictures of one?

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Loving this gold! :love:

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,304 ✭✭✭✭✭

    beautiful gold indeed

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BloodMan said:
    This double eagle is graded by NGC as MS64*PL

    I have said it before and Ill say it again, your set is the one out of everyone on the board I would like to see the most in person. That is saying something too

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crypto said:

    @BloodMan said:
    This double eagle is graded by NGC as MS64*PL

    I have said it before and Ill say it again, your set is the one out of everyone on the board I would like to see the most in person. That is saying something too

    I agree. If it was my coin, I would have sent it back to NGC for a designation review. The mirrors look borderline DPL/DMPL if not fully DMPL. The star would still be deserved for the cameo contrasts. Unfortunately PCGS will not recognize DMPL for these yet.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BloodMan

    Beautiful coin. Your seconds are better looking than most of our firsts.

  • BloodManBloodMan Posts: 1,836 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the comments.

    Collecting prooflike gold is very challenging because for most dates less than 1% of the population qualify for the designation (based on NGC data). I suspect PCGS will be at least equally stringent. Additionally, the reflective surfaces tend to exaggerate even minor surface abrasions so finding examples with good eye appeal takes time.

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