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Anyway to determine the date of this 1/2 cent?

COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

Just curious if there was a way to determine the date of this half cent using die markers or anything? I've had it a long time. Paid 50 cents for it and just ran across it in a box and was just curious.

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  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,178 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Facing right, small head... 1795 to 97...

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I cannot discern the last digit....maybe some early copper guys can help....@Lkenefic has a good input....Cheers, RickO

  • lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 8,178 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm hoping an EAC'er can chime in with a good eye and die diagnostics

    Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;

    Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For starters, it appears to be a "no pole" variety. I don't think those exist in EVERY year....but I'm no expert.

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a 1795. I can tell because it does not match up with any of the 1796 or '97 varieties.

    I am not going to give myself a headache, however, and determine the Cohen number. That's too much like work.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TommyType said:
    For starters, it appears to be a "no pole" variety. I don't think those exist in EVERY year....but I'm no expert.

    Yeah....My old eyes may have deceived me, since that may be a pole near the neck. Don't mind me. :)

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 704 ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2019 10:23AM

    1795 3-D Rarity-2.

    Check to see if there are any signs of being struck over a Talbot Allum and Lee cent.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,774 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I kinda like it. it has its own personality sorta speaks, just saying

  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm guessing plain edge?

  • LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭

    Without looking at it closely,,,it looks like
    a 1795 no pole Cohen 6a Half Cent. The
    extended stems and the position of the
    low leaf pointing to A-3 seem to confirm it.
    The left side of the OBV has an image of the
    rev, wreath,
    There are a number of examples of this variety
    in the Davy Collection of Half Cents Catalogue
    in the Goldberg sale of Sept. 19th, 2010 in
    Beverly Hills.

    My Type Set

    R.I.P. Bear image
  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow... thanks everyone! Didnt think I would ever get the date figured out on this coin. I thought it was neat when I bought it. Figured it past through so many hands and had so much history behind it I also thought it was neat that it has no corrosion or scratches for such a heavily used coin

    I am curious.... why are the rims so wide on the reverse?

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool coin and a heckuva bargain for 50c!!! B)

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The other way to determine the date is to use a black marker and write it on the coin.

    PS: Using LoveMyLiberty's post info. you should be able to have it authenticated by a major TPG.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am curious.... why are the rims so wide on the reverse?

    It was struck off-center. These dies had long dentiles around the edges, and they show if the coin is struck that way. There is one variety of 1797 half cent, C-2, that always shows them. You can attribute that variety even if it's in Poor-01. One of my old girl friend's family had one in a family hoard that was in that grade.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    I am curious.... why are the rims so wide on the reverse?

    It was struck off-center. These dies had long dentiles around the edges, and they show if the coin is struck that way. There is one variety of 1797 half cent, C-2, that always shows them. You can attribute that variety even if it's in Poor-01. One of my old girl friend's family had one in a family hoard that was in that grade.

    Would it be worth sending in for a low grade like that?

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  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good buy for 50 cents.

    Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value. Zero. Voltaire. Ebay coinbowlllc

  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 16, 2019 6:58PM

    1795 seems right. I'll offer you a dollar for it and you don't have to think about it anymore. :D

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @COINS MAKE CENTS said:

    @BillJones said:

    I am curious.... why are the rims so wide on the reverse?

    It was struck off-center. These dies had long dentiles around the edges, and they show if the coin is struck that way. There is one variety of 1797 half cent, C-2, that always shows them. You can attribute that variety even if it's in Poor-01. One of my old girl friend's family had one in a family hoard that was in that grade.

    Would it be worth sending in for a low grade like that?

    No. Only a really ratty 1796 half cent would be worth the money for doing that.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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